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Freeping Opportunity: Need Right thinking minds to help in civilly debate on a non political forum.

Posted on 01/09/2003 6:51:30 PM PST by Craigon

Someone started a thread on a Car-Guy/Gearhead forum I frequent raging about this anti SUV article:

http://www.auto.com/industry/nus...030109.htm

To my surprise (given the Gear Head nature of the web site) darn near 95% of the responses to this issue were anti SUV and degraded into a left love fest with Bush Bashing, Iraq War Bashing, and most of all a bunch of class warfare tax ‘em to hell attitudes. I had to take a second look to be sure I was not inadvertently in a DU forum!

Right minds are desperately need in the discussion. Debating is not one of my strong points…most frustrating... Anyway, if any of you out there are the type that enjoys debating Taxes, Freedom, and Roles of a Super Power with the left leaning types feel free to chime in :)

The thread is at

http://pub59.ezboard.com/fprotouringgmachinesfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1009.topic

Be polite now ;). I like the forum as long as it steers clear of politics. If you’re a gear head, it’s a swell place with a lot of good knowledge.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: debate; iraqwardebate; liberal; suv; taxes

1 posted on 01/09/2003 6:51:30 PM PST by Craigon
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2 posted on 01/09/2003 6:53:01 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Craigon
I despise SUVs - not because of anything else but that I'm tired of craning to see around them or dodging out of their arrogant way on the Interstate. I suspect most of the anti-SUV crowd shares my displeasure, and so latch on to anything which they can use against the pro-SUV crowd...
3 posted on 01/09/2003 7:00:41 PM PST by AntiGuv (...get rid of those damn High Intensity headlights too!)
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To: AntiGuv
The SUV thing just started the conversation on that thread. It's a minor foot note in the discussion. It's basically turned into a pro-tax, anti-Bush, Pro Iraq fest. I'm sure you do not want to jump on that band wagon? Especially the pro tax part! I have a Geo and Impala (and a '69 Camaro)and am turning in an SUV lease in 2 weeks. So while I think you should be able to drive whatever you want, I'm not really pro or con SUV. I'm kind of neutral on that topic. To each his own. I’m sure there some thing said in there that will urk you even if you do hate SUV’s.
4 posted on 01/09/2003 7:13:31 PM PST by Craigon
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To: AntiGuv
how are SUV's any different than vans or mini vans. About the same size and they get similar mileage. Are the soccer mom's funding terrorists with their Winstars?

Edison
5 posted on 01/09/2003 7:15:28 PM PST by Edison
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To: AntiGuv
Who wants to drive an SUV when they can drive a milsurp deuce-and-a-half?
6 posted on 01/09/2003 7:21:42 PM PST by jdege
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To: Edison
Well heck, I had a typo (or the original link changed) regarding the SUV=terrorist article. Sorry.

http://www.auto.com/industry/nusuv9_20030109.htm
7 posted on 01/09/2003 7:23:05 PM PST by Craigon
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To: Craigon; Edison
No, I don't agree with most of the sentiments expressed by the anti-SUV crowd on that forum (I just read through the thread). My beef with SUVs was rather well-summarized by this John Parsons guy:

Now since this seems to be the "vent your spleen" topic ... let me add that in general I despise SUVs. They are the antithesis of pro-touring: heavy, poor-handling, poor-performing beasts that require more driving skill than many of those that drive them possess. Granted, some of them are legit: for truck-like things like towing, hauling tools, and the like. But why in the world there is a thing called a Cadillac Escalade is way beyond me.

That being said, I don't believe the government should take any action - least of all raising taxes - with the intent of hounding SUV drivers off the road. I simply wish the fad of people buying SUVs so they can look cool would pass - and, no, most SUV drivers do not in my experience comport themselves on the road as mini-van drivers do. Otherwise, I'm not much inclined for scrapping around on the net, so I'll just stick around here where I try & keep out of everyone's gunsights. ;)

8 posted on 01/09/2003 7:40:03 PM PST by AntiGuv
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