Apple Introduces New Products

Apple ^ | 01/07/03

[Djarum]

Software

Safari A free web browser for OS X
Keynote Presentation software offering rich graphics capabilities - $99
iLife iTunes 3, iPhoto 2, iMovie 3, iDVD 3, all bundled for $49 or (with the exception of iDVD) available separately for free
Final Cut Express A lite version of FC Pro - $299

Hardware

PowerBook G4 12" Apple's most compact notebook, starting at $1799
PowerBook G4 17" The largest screen in the portable market, starting at $3299

Apple.com

[savedbygrace]

I've taken them apart and put them back together again, so you could say I've built Macs.

I can see, though, that you cleverly missed the point of my post. Even though the mobo in this box was defective, I still reported that the Windows box is nearly as stable as Mac OS X v10.2.2.

Any computer part be be defective. That was what happened to me in this case. But in spite of that, I still fairly reported the truth: that WinXP is almost as stable as Jaguar.

Windows fanatics would never give an inch on this issue, never admitting that a Mac is any good whatsoever. You'll flail around trying to diss Macs and Mac owners as if it were your religion or something.

IOW, Windoze fanatics argue a lot like liberals.

[Last Visible Dog]

Windows fanatics would never give an inch on this issue, never admitting that a Mac is any good whatsoever. You'll flail around trying to diss Macs and Mac owners as if it were your religion or something.

Look up from your script. I am not the fanatic – I use what works and what people pay me to use. I have not dissed the Mac – I have only pointed out the nonsense in Mac-head’s statements. You have got a really bad case of projection – it is Mac-heads that are flailing about desperately trying to claim metaphysical superiority of their overpriced computer/fashions statements.

You guys need to “THINK FOR YOURSELF” and not just repeat the Apple slogans.

IOW, Windoze fanatics argue a lot like liberals.

Yeah right. Mac-heads play fast and loose with the truth just like liberals

[Xenalyte]

And all the new products were approved by this chick.

[savedbygrace]

Sure. Whatever.

[Nexus]

I don't understand why it isn't compatable with OS X 10.1.5, though. After all, it's a 2001 release. This kinda makes me mad, I want to try it out.

[avg_freeper]

Does Safari really require OS X 10.2? I still have 10.1, was wondering if it would still work.

[avg_freeper]

One of the biggest pieces of news that I've heard is that Apple has just released their own fully "aquified" version of X11. (at Beta currently)

This should speed along 'NIX application porting quite a bit.

[Richard Kimball]

Best to bite the bullet and get Jaguar. There were a lot of upgrades in 10.2, and it's definitely worth it. I came over to Mac from Windows, and OSX was one of the reasons, but I was surprised at how much difference Jaguar made. Printer drivers, font kerning, and just a zillion little improvements were made. The difference between IE and Safari, even with Safari in beta is quite amazing, and has me very excited about the future with the Macs.

The difference in performance between it and IE, Netscape, Mozilla, etc. is stunning, and I think gives us a very good idea of where OSX will go when native applications are written for it as opposed to being ported from 9.

Now, if I could just afford one of the new 12" Powerbooks! However, Safari fit right into my budget.

[avg_freeper]

My problem with upgrading now is that I've heard that the new Quartz Extreme (why does everything have to be extreme now?) does not accelerate graphics very much with my G4's old 128 Rage Pro.

I plan on getting a Radeon 9K later this year and then upgrading.

Do you think the other improvements (other than Quartz Extreme) are worth the upgrade? If so I might upgrade anyway.

[Richard Kimball]

For me it would have been, just for the printer drivers. I use an Epson 1280, and the printer driver in OSX 1.5 wasn't very good. This upgrade was significant. Since about 85% of my computer work at home is digital photography, this was a far bigger deal to me than to many others. Also, there was some information on OSX 1.5 that mentioned it was much slower surfing the web. I'm not sure of the underlying technical reasons, but I noticed Jaguar was faster (I still have to use dial up at home). Safari is probably twice as fast as IE, though, and I suspect it's because IE hasn't been upgraded to use the underlying code modifications in Jaguar.

One thing which happened that disappointed me at first was that my system started doing a complete lockup about twice a day after I first installed Jag. Mouse pointer still moved, but rest of screen was locked. I had to do total power down to get back in. Apparently, and I'm just guessing here, though, it wasn't a lockup, but the system was doing a self repair of some sort. After one of the "lockups", I had something else to do, and left the system alone for about 10 min. When I came back, it was working, and the system didn't lock up again for about three days. After that, when the "lock up" would occur, I would just do something else until it came back, and after about a week it quit doing it. Worried me a little at first, but it seems to have fixed itself very effectively.

There are other upgrades with Jaguar, but as to whether or not it would be a benefit for your specific system, I couldn't say. I get an educational discount, so it was $79 for me, and well worth it.

Oh, one final point. If you use OfficeX, download and install the service pack update as soon as you install Jaguar. Word crashes after the install if you don't. After the Service pack update, though, it works perfectly.

[Bush2000]

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Thanks for the laugh. I love it. I'll add it to my collection. I'll put it right next to this:

[Bush2000]

How about ...

[Bush2000]

Or ...

[Tribune7]

bump

[Bush2000]

Or ...

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Alright, stop...yer killin' me. I'll have to make a new sub-directory on the server for these.
Lucky for my keyboard that I clicked on the replies before I took a swig of my vodka and tonic.

[TC Rider]

Wow, I can finally replace that Newton I had wedged under my door.

[ThinkDifferent]

There's tons more at Fark: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=397057

[Bush2000]

;-p