Race redivides schools as courts end busing

Washington Times ^ | 12/29/02 | Allen Breed

[hoosierskypilot]

CHARLOTTE, N.C.

[hoosierskypilot]

The most segregated schools in the nation are still in the North: New York, California, Michigan and Illinois have the lowest percentages of black students in majority-white schools.

California is not "north." California is nothing. Besides, even though CA may not have many blacks, I wonder how many students in CA have Mexican names? That sure sounds like integration, to me.

the South was where the federal courts had to drag whites kicking and screaming into integration.

Wrong! I still remember the burned out buses in Louisville, Ky, (Dixie Highway) when Derby City had to start bussing. And remember Boston? Looked like a war zone.

"When the educational bankruptcy of this resegregation becomes clear," he says, "only then will we be in a position as a public to right the wrongs that we've created."

Their idea of educational equality is for everyone to be moderately stupid. Kind of like the second law of thermodynamics.

They don't want to get shipped across town for equity purposes or for diversity. That's ridiculous."

Amen! It's ridiculous to see kids standing on a street corner at 5:00 a.m. waiting for their bus.

[stylin19a]

I wonder how things might have turned out if there wasn't forced segregation.

"Racial balance is not to be achieved for its own sake," Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote in a seminal opinion in the case of a Georgia school district. "Where resegregation is a product not of state action but of private choices, it does not have constitutional implications."

If this statement is true today, why wasn't it true when they started forced busing ?

[goldstategop]

It was true. The liberals pushed forced busing for reasons other than wanting schools to be integrated - and the public saw right through it. No one liked having their children be pushed half way across town to make social planners in the courts and the school bureaucracy look good and the more the Left persisted in defying parental wishes, the more it found itself estranged from the mainstream of society. A big lesson in all of this is Jim Crow wasn't going to be reversed overnight by judicial diktat when one considers the fact it took decades to put government sponsored segregration into place. And as a result of the liberal folly, many children are worse off today than they would have been if the old stupid forced busing experiment had never been carried out in the first place.

[chasio649]

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[chasio649]

you got that right...i was forced to ride a bus 1 1/2 hour one way everyday to school here in Mobile....i resented being sent to that zoo...my folks didn't have the money to send me to private...but it did shape my views on a lot of things and sure as heck kept me from having any liberal tendencies later in life ....if you know what i mean.

[crystalk]

They ruined the lives and futures of two entire generations of Americans; those born from about 1950 to 1995. Public schools were dumbed down to where they will never recover.

No one expects to learn anything at these schools, socialist experimentation is their only purpose. They are illiteracy factories.

First, religion must be brought back. Second, schools must be made much smaller and subject to parental and church control. Nearly all students would learn better and faster if they were just educated at home, and if not, then exposed to as few different cultures as possible. Their mothers could grab them and drag them into the bathroom and steal their lunch money, just so they didn't miss too much.

They could be made for one week each year to get up at 4:30 am in the freezing cold and ride in freezing, hard-seated buses all over a bunch of bumpy back roads for six hours, in order to sit in classrooms with a bunch of low-life retards for four.

Segregating students by sex as well as race would help a great deal, but a generation of Americans has been programmed to go screaming bananas at the concept.

[goldstategop]

Yeah and they never learn. Here in California the Los Angeles Times came out with a barn burner editorial in favor of eliminating the so-called SUV tax deduction. Its all the same with these folks - they never learn to leave well enough alone and they think they're better than every one else, a kind of self-appointed class of do-gooders that has to right to decide where we will go to school, where we'll be allowed to live, what kind of job we'll be working, and the type of car we'll have the privilege of driving. Some things never change.

[WKB]

I wonder how things might have turned out if there wasn't forced segregation

If we had elected Strom Thrumond President we might know!!

[Joe Boucher]

40 years of bussing has accomplished nothing to bring the races together. It has pitted black against white and ruined local schooling. It has eliminated pride in local schools and communities.And for what? Some court ordered social engineering?
All it has done in my mind is decrease my regard for the courts.

[stylin19a]

Sorry i was unclear...my question was rhetorical. I believe we'd be exactly where this article says we are today. White flight saw to that.

[DB]

Cultural and racial issues are entirely different. There is no reason people of all races can't live together happily. Culture on the other hand divides people. Mexican culture is what makes Mexico what it is, not the genetic makeup of its people. People come to America for jobs and freedom which aren't available in their home countries precisely because of their local culture.

Then some try to bring that culture here… And if successful will only make America the same as what they are fleeing from… We have a successful American culture that we need to protect and continue.

Race is not the issue. Culture is.

[WKB]

I believe we'd be exactly where this article says we are today. White flight saw to that.

We have an averge of over one k-12 private school per county in Ms. White flight has survived for 30+ years.

[NativeNewYorker]

Race is not the issue. Culture is.

My 4000 student Brooklyn NY high school was internally segregated by intellect and work ethic, not race. The Jews and Caribbean blacks dominated the honors/AP classes. The cultural difference was when I brought a hot black Cuban babe home once. Mom did NOT approve!

[sweetliberty]

"Where resegregation is a product not of state action but of private choices, it does not have constitutional implications."

Amen to that! Busing never made sense to any but those whose idea of academic equality is across the board mediocrity.

[sweetliberty]

I sent my daughter to private school, at great sacrifice I might add, and it had nothing to do with race at all. It had to do with the fact that I wanted her in a school that reinforced the values I taught her at home, not one that spent the time she was in school tearing them down. In fact, the school where she went to kindergarten was actually more blacks than whites. I suppose it would come as a shock to some of these liberal racebaiters that many blacks want excellence for their kids too and are willing to make whatever sacrifices necessary to provide it.

[SuziQ]

I was a senior in high school in the fall of 1970. That was the first year of court ordered busing to achieve integration in S. Mississippi. There were some whites who vehemently opposed the presence of blacks in the school, but they were a tiny number. Most whites didn't care; they just didn't like the disruption of the media parked in front of the school waiting for the riots that never came.

The majority of the black students did not want to be there. They had their own high school of which they were justifiably proud, but were forced to get on buses and travel across town to assuage some white Northerner's guilt over the inequalities present in the educational system. The interesting thing was that we had had black students at our high school for several years. It was those students who wanted to attend a mostly white school and take advantage of the more rigorous programs or the different vocational programs available at the school.

There was only one time when there was a problem in the school. Some black students protested because there was not a black girl on the cheerleading squad. Since the squad is usually chosen in the spring, there were no black girls there for the tryouts. For a few mornings, about half of the black students gathered in the school lounge until the first bell rang, then they walked out to the semi-circular driveway to march around with signs. We even had the police show up in riot gear! They must have called the TV station because someone with a camera was there as well. I didn't even know it until the evening when my Mama asked what the trouble was at school; she'd seen it on the news! There wasn't any trouble, and within a couple of weeks several black girls had tried out for the squad, and a couple had made it. They were very good, too!

The most striking thing I remember from that whole incident was the comment by one of the black students in my World Geography class. When asked by the teacher, who was also black, why he wasn't taking part in the demonstration, the student said "Those stupid n...... don't know what they want!". We white students were shocked that he'd say the word, much less about his peers! The teacher just howled; he thought it was hilarious!

[WKB]

It started out as "white flight" and now it is more about " what's right"
After I posted I thought about the number of blacks in private schools. They are there to get their child the best education possible. I am sure they would love a voucher to help out and it would not be such a sacrifice.