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Deficit-ridden state looks into selling property
ChicagoER.com via Newsmax ^ | 12/25/2002 | STEVE GEISSINGER - MediaNews Group

Posted on 12/25/2002 11:27:30 AM PST by patton

Deficit-ridden state looks into selling property

By STEVE GEISSINGER - MediaNews Group

SACRAMENTO - State officials digging for ways to close a stunning budget deficit acknowledged Thursday that they have uncovered a potential gold mine - sale of surplus state land.

The idea of paring a property inventory that equals the size of Los Angeles County - resurrected from the fiscal crisis of a decade ago - is sure to stir up everyone from environmentalists to the real estate sector, officials conceded in interviews with ANG Newspapers.

But the state's efficiency watchdog agency says the effort could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars, especially considering the value of land or buildings that might be deemed surplus in the Bay Area and Southern California.

A state department charged with compiling an inventory of state properties is working to update its list before the end of the year, although few of those properties are expected to be identified as surplus because of bureaucratic obstacles and an absence of incentives.

The watchdog agency - the Little Hoover Commission - also has long recommended improving state property management through negotiation, for instance, of more lease-purchase agreements and long-term leases. Other alternatives include selling state buildings, then leasing them back.

The state, with an annual budget of less than $100 billion, is scrambling to erase a $34.8 billion deficit over the next 18 months, mostly with spending cuts and likely tax hikes. Gov. Gray Davis is scheduled to unveil the bulk of his plan to close the gap Jan. 10.

"We obviously have to look everywhere we can to solve this problem," the Democratic governor said Thursday during a Capitol interview. But he refused to preview his proposals.

Asked specifically about surplus-land sales, Anita Gore, a spokeswoman for Davis' Finance Department, said, "Everything is on the table. Nothing has been ruled out."

The Legislature will consider Davis' proposed budget but also ponder its own courses of action, especially as majority Democrats clash with Republicans, whose votes are needed to pass a spending plan.

"With everything on the table, that includes sale of surplus property," said Chris Woods, the chief consultant to the Assembly Budget Committee. "That will be evaluated and looked at closely."

"There's valuable property out there. Some prudent sale of property would probably make a lot of sense," Woods said.

The state owns 2,000 individual properties that total more than 2.5 million acres, according to records at the Department of General Services. The state also owns more than 19,100 buildings with more than 183 million square feet of space - the equivalent of 18 New York City's former World Trade Centers.

"The parcels reflect the diversity of the Golden State - windy hillsides populated by oaks and acorn woodpeckers, rocky cliffs pounded by the Pacific surf, rectangles of downtown San Francisco and Los Angeles valued by the square foot, sprawling suburban university campuses and patch-worked farm fields," says a Little Hoover Commission report.

The study, prepared during the budget crisis of the early 1990s, said some of the property was under-used or unneeded altogether. Statewide examples included land purchased by Caltrans for freeways that have never been built, as well as office buildings, prisons and state hospitals.

Among potential properties the commission report identified were San Quentin prison in Marin County and Folsom Prison in Sacramento County. San Quentin is more than 400 acres and Folsom is more than 1,200 acres, and both are in prime real estate markets.

"Everyone's looking at this (sale of surplus property) again now because we're trying to find every nickel that we can find," said James Mayer, executive director of the Little Hoover Commission.

"If there's one piece of property out there that could be better put to use at this point and provide health care for a poor kid, it's a pot of gold," Mayer said.

But there has been little incentive by the scores of departments that own land and buildings to declare any of it surplus since proceeds from sales go into the state's general operating fund, he said.

Proposals to allow departments to keep part of the proceeds have been unpopular with legislators, who want to retain fiscal control over the bureaucracy.

In citing frustrations, the Little Hoover Commission reported that agencies also were "reluctant to relinquish control of their fiefdoms."

It concluded a decade ago, during a much smaller deficit crisis, that "substantive reform is doomed to be bogged down in a political quagmire."


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Interesting...
1 posted on 12/25/2002 11:27:30 AM PST by patton
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To: patton
An interesting wealth redistribution too... the "small rectangles of land sold by the square foot in SF and LA." If any of this land was taken by tax seizures, and then sold now, it will represent a taking of land from the poor (who couldn't afford their taxes) and sold to the rich, who can afford it now.
2 posted on 12/25/2002 11:39:37 AM PST by coloradan
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To: patton
I would be willing to purchase some property under three conditions:

1.) That after the final payment for the land that the property belongs to me and my decendents or whoever I chose to give/sell it to, and that I would be exempt from property taxes.

2.) That I can build anything I want, or do anything I want on it.

3.) All mineral rights under the property belong to me.

If none of the above conditions are met, then the State can take a hike.
3 posted on 12/25/2002 11:40:18 AM PST by Chewbacca
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To: coloradan
I like the idea of the state selling off unused land - put it to productive use in private hands.

The idea of selling state offices, though, and then renting them back is idiotic. Not that they don't have too much, they do - but again, this scheme is just another way of stealing from their kids.

4 posted on 12/25/2002 11:48:04 AM PST by patton
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To: patton
A short term partial solution to a long term problem. They have a $34 billion deficit.

They are talking about raising 100's of millions (less than a billion?).

The resultant increase in tax revenues would be a small help, but it would be offset by the new lease expenses.

This is nothing more than using capital (savings) to pay normal living expenses, sorta like refi the house to buy new cars and other goodies and vacations.

At some point they are going to have to reduce the financial demand of the state government.

5 posted on 12/25/2002 12:08:12 PM PST by There's millions of'em
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To: There's millions of'em
At some point they are going to have to reduce the financial demand of the state government.

In California, LOL. One can only hope.

6 posted on 12/25/2002 12:29:12 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: There's millions of'em
Maybe if they sell off enough property and buildings they will have to house the government workers in another state.
OOPS, never mind keep them all out on the left coast.

I guess trying to stave off a short fall by selling property makes sense this year. What are they going to do next year, start holding bake sales? Sooner or later they just might find out you can't keep spending what you haven't already robbed from the people.
7 posted on 12/25/2002 12:48:19 PM PST by YOMO
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To: patton
Until the people that demands services start paying thier share these states will be in a heap of hurt.The few can not support the masses.I say all the land should be sold to private intrest so the states can get a tax base from it.If it not on a tax roll that adds to the deficit.
8 posted on 12/25/2002 12:49:29 PM PST by solo gringo
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To: Chewbacca
My guess is you're not a property owner. But if you do own property none of it meets your "conditions"
9 posted on 12/25/2002 12:57:27 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: patton
SACRAMENTO - State officials digging for ways to close a stunning budget deficit acknowledged Thursday that they have uncovered a potential gold mine - sale of surplus state land.

Sure, you can buy the land, BUT...

1) The State will retain all rights pertaining to said property, even if you get some kind of paperwork assuring you otherwise, they'll find a way to get it back.

2) The EPA will prevent you from any development/improvement of said property, because of the endangered left-testicled Yemeni Fruit Fly they found on your property (a la the Lynx fur fraud that was perpetrated recently).

3) The State will then Tax you at a greater rate on an undevelopable parcel that they will claim rights on...and demand you pay some sort of "retro" tax they will come up with in the future.

All the while you will be accused of "destroying the Environment", and if you complain, you will be called "unfair" and "greedy". Then when the illegals from Mexico make their dream of "Aztlan" come true, you will be out money, time, AND the property!

My suggestion...they are hell bent on bankruptcy now...why bail them out at THEIR rates, when "distresses owner" sales are so much more buyer friendly, and probably will accompany a Tax-Revolt of staggering proportions!

10 posted on 12/25/2002 1:26:26 PM PST by Itzlzha
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To: patton
Yeah. And if you believe that there's a bridge they want to sell you.

That's not sarcasm (anymore).

11 posted on 12/25/2002 2:08:47 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger
They're screwed all right. and selling then releasing just makes it worse. But, speaking of reclaiming govt. owned land reminds me of recent land grabs made (mostly by the feds, I suppose).

I wonder if there's a way to take advantage of govt. deficits and get this land back into private ownership. The Utah Escalante oil lands, for example.

12 posted on 12/25/2002 3:40:21 PM PST by chiller
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To: patton
Sell the whole thing, but just give everybody MEXICAN titles to the land, then take it all back in a few years and sell it again.

If anybody still owns property in California, this is the time to sell.

13 posted on 12/25/2002 3:42:49 PM PST by crystalk
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To: chiller
Selling off assets of a few hundred million bucks is not gonna help a 100 billion dollar budget overdrawn by 34 percent over the next 18 months.

California Gov't has a problem with spending too much. Let that be known.

14 posted on 12/25/2002 4:08:41 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: patton
Sell it all. Allodial titles prefered.


15 posted on 12/25/2002 4:36:09 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Itzlzha
Was it Maine, where a court auctioned of the statehouse furniture last year?
16 posted on 12/25/2002 4:47:35 PM PST by patton
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To: patton
Let's see. That pretty bridge in SF is interesting. $5 per vehicle ...
17 posted on 12/25/2002 4:54:20 PM PST by gitmo
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To: Itzlzha
Here it is:

Massachusetts House speaker pleads for his love seat and other office furniture

18 posted on 12/25/2002 4:56:42 PM PST by patton
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To: patton
Yeah, the Free Republic Ranch has a nice ring to it.
19 posted on 12/25/2002 4:57:45 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: gitmo
It is not state property, I think - The city of SF originally put up the bond for it.
20 posted on 12/25/2002 4:57:54 PM PST by patton
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