Posted on 12/22/2002 9:21:17 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:47:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Lake Tahoe sank so low before recent storms that many boat docks were left high and dry. Scientists say that historical droughts have caused Tahoe's vast shoreline to drop 20 feet, allowing forests to grow where there is now water.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that droughts are possible. It doesn't even take much more intelligence to concluded that a western (geomorphologically and climatologically speaking) desert is not an ideal place to house a large population.
Yet both or natinal policy and state policies absolutely abhor population control. Population control appears to run absolutely contrary to our national purpose of freedom.
Well I have news for the libertaring lurking in us all. Sooner rather than later, the immutable laws of nature are going to catch up with our predispostion for personal freedom.
I suspect our solution will be that we all equally share a miserable existance where politcal rivalries over resources and exhortations calling for sacrafices to a greater good are the soup of the day.
I am approaching senior citizenship and I expect to see this in my lifetime.
There always have been and always will be water wars/problems real or otherwise in California.
One proposal is to expand pumping plants near Tracy, so more water could be sent south into storage during periods when fish aren't around....?
I remember going to Southern Calif. during the 87-92 drought and seeing the lake on the grapevine (supplied by the California Aquaduct from Tracy south) full to the brim and people washing their cars without nozzles on thier hoses letting the water run down the driveway into the gutters......
BTW, Lake Tahoe has one spillway and that spillway is never altered, the water flows (east) down the Truckee River right through downtown Reno. I don't know that anyone in California uses one drop of water from Lake Tahoe.
I abhor it as well. What do you want, forced abortions like in China? The population control people are all nutty facists who only see a static world. That is, they only see current resources - and future population size. They can't imagine that resources increase as human ingenuity is put to the test. In the 1970's, your fellow travellers were all saying that we'd all be dead now unless we had population control. Now you seem to think it will happen in your lifetime. Guess what? Unless the governments all turn socialist, it won't. There has never been famine in a free country, and there never will be.
That's not to say there won't be a problem at Tahoe. They'pre probably will be. But making the prediction that someday there will be another drought is like predicting that sometime when you roll dice you will get snake eyes.
I am approaching senior citizenship and I expect to see this in my lifetime. So did Malthus, and he's been dead for 170 years. People are not trees. They can move. If it gets dry over here, they'll go over there. This has been going on for thousands of years. It's really no big deal. This is just another one of those stupid articles about how Something Bad Is Coming. Who knows why they write these things. A twenty year long drought will take twenty years to happen. There will be plenty of time for people to move to Minnesota, drink their 10,000 lakes, and elect Hulk Hogan the new Governor. |
Thank goodness Kalifornia hasn't made the same mistake with electricity. Thanks to central planning by the liberals, we have a surplus of generating capacity and all the electricity that even low-income citizens could ever want.
NOT !!!
( And please spare me the claim that it was "deregulation" that created the electricity problems. When the utilities should have raised prices to lower consumption, they were not allowed to.)
Not exactly. Here's three quickies off the top of my head to achieve controlled growth.
My first suggestion would be a policy already practiced in some California counties. Specifically, a sensible limitation on building permits.
Another step would be a policy already in place with regard to large commercial customers in most areas of California. Specifically, limiting new enegry hookups until the infrastructure is in place to handle the load.
Third would be a realistic approach to energy sales in a saturated market. Let the customer pay for the comodity in a free market. As power becomes scarce it becomes expensive. Gentrification becomes the motivation for the populalation shift you predict.
Exactly.
But what gets them to move before the crisis erupts. Sensible growth regulation.
"Experts" don't count global warming as a factor. This article is pure FUD.
But what gets them to move before the crisis erupts. Sensible growth regulation. What's this, Smart People Wearing Suits herding the masses around like cattle? What are you doing on a conservative forum? That is an "unconstrained vision" assumption... the vision of the anointed leading the hapless drones to a better future by being benevolent... and condescending. You can't get to conservatism from there. That vision is the foundation of liberal mommy-state-ism. |
I never said that there are not certain areas where there is overpopulation. Besides, in my town, OKC, people are free to move in and out and do with their land as they please.
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