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U.S. Sen Patty Murray -- Senator Asks Students to Ponder (Sen. Murray lauds Osama bin Laden)
Columbian ^ | 12/19/2002 | Gregg Herrington

Posted on 12/19/2002 4:20:16 PM PST by B Knotts

U.S. Sen. Patty Murray was in Vancouver on Wednesday challenging high school students to answer these questions:

What is behind terrorist Osama bin Laden's popularity in some parts of the world, and should the United States adopt his nation-building tactics?

Speaking at Columbia River High School, Murray, D-Wash., responded to questions from students, most about the war on terrorism or government spending for education.

Later Wednesday, Murray visited C-Tran headquarters and checked out a new bus.

Murray met at Columbia River with world history students and student government leaders. Across town, Hudson's Bay High School students participated via teleconference.

Murray concluded the session by challenging the students to consider alternatives to war.

"We've got to ask, why is this man (Osama bin Laden) so popular around the world?," said Murray, who faces re-election in 2004. "Why are people so supportive of him in many countries ? that are riddled with poverty?

"He's been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that.

"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"

Murray said she doesn't know where she comes down on that guns-or-butter question, and building infrastructure in Third World countries would "cost a lot of money, and we have schools here and health care facilities here that are really hurting."

Be 'better neighbors'?

"War is expensive too," she said. "Your generation ought to be thinking about whether we should be better neighbors out in other countries so that they have a different vision of us.

"It is a debate I think we ought to have."

Murray was in the minority when the Senate voted 77-23 in October to give President Bush authority to use military force in confronting Saddam Hussein. The state's other senator, Democrat Maria Cantwell, voted for the resolution.

Murray opened Wednesday's event telling the students, "You'll be graduating into a world that is very difficult. ? The economy is struggling. War in Iraq is a very real possibility in the short term" and could cost $200 billion even if it were to last only a few weeks.

The cost of waging war could result in cuts to domestic programs such as Pell grants for college students, she said.

Responding to a question about federal spending for schools, Murray said the Bush administration is backing off its pledge of support for the No Child Left Behind program.

"There are crises in every one of our schools in this country," Murray said, and cutting spending on education has long-term deleterious effects.

Visit to the bus barn

Later in the day, Murray spent 45 minutes at the C-Tran administrative and operations facility at 2425 N.E. 65th Ave. for a holiday potluck. Randy Frasier's Mountain View High School jazz and concert choirs serenaded her with holiday carols.

Afterward, Murray examined a new $312,000 Gillig coach, the first of several dozen that will replace 20-year-old GM buses that have racked up an average of 650,000 miles each.

Murray is on the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on transportation, which funnels matching money to states and local agencies for buses and other transit programs. Eighty percent of the cost of new buses will come from federal grants, and the remainder from local C-Tran money.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizatio; islam; jihadinamerica; leftist; nevillechamberland; pattybinmurray; scum; taqiyyalist; traitor; traitorlist
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I'm speechless.
1 posted on 12/19/2002 4:20:16 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Grampa Dave
FYI BUMP
2 posted on 12/19/2002 4:21:04 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Heaven help me for what I think when I read stuff like this.
3 posted on 12/19/2002 4:23:06 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: B Knotts
The words, idiot commie bitch come to mind...
4 posted on 12/19/2002 4:23:47 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Paul Atreides
Do you think the news media will make as big a deal out of these comments as they did of Sen. Lott's?
5 posted on 12/19/2002 4:24:16 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Yeah, they will. Only, they will use words such as "courageous," "intelligent," and a general demeanor of brown-nosing.
6 posted on 12/19/2002 4:26:16 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Admin Moderator
Feel free to add this to breaking news if you think it's warranted.
7 posted on 12/19/2002 4:26:46 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
I still can't believe that this simpleton is a senator.
8 posted on 12/19/2002 4:26:47 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: B Knotts; Jim Robinson; Registered; Mama_Bear
Do you think the news media will make as big a deal out of these comments as they did of Sen. Lott's?

BINGO!

9 posted on 12/19/2002 4:27:14 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: B Knotts
The cost of waging war could result in cuts to domestic programs such as Pell grants for college students, she said.

Think that'll hurt, watch as we do nothing and there are no colleges to attend, no investors willing to risk capital in the United States.

10 posted on 12/19/2002 4:27:34 PM PST by listenhillary
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To: B Knotts
I just can't believe the morons in Washington who would elect such an imbecile and the incompetent Republican Party that can't recruit a candidate who might win.
11 posted on 12/19/2002 4:27:56 PM PST by One More Time
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To: B Knotts
She's right you know. We rebuilt Europe after the war and they, especially the French, just love us for building roads, schools, day care center and McDonalds!!

Patooey! Irony Overdose!

12 posted on 12/19/2002 4:30:12 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: B Knotts
PeeYew! What a yutz she is!
13 posted on 12/19/2002 4:31:55 PM PST by Bullish
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To: One More Time
I just can't believe the morons in Washington who would elect such an imbecile and the incompetent Republican Party that can't recruit a candidate who might win.

Not only elect, but freaking REELECT.

Isn't this halfwit the infamous Mom in tennis shoes or some similar BS?

14 posted on 12/19/2002 4:32:23 PM PST by Marathoner
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To: Marathoner
You got it. The comrade in tennis shoes.
15 posted on 12/19/2002 4:34:24 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Oh, God, the root causes crowd.

Will get big play in the jihadi sites, arabnews etc. Bolsters the jihadi arguments big time.

The Senator ignores the atrocities.

HItler built autobahns, etc too. Doesn't justify the evil.
16 posted on 12/19/2002 4:34:52 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Go Dub Go
Don't you think it's legitimate to wonder why Osama bin Laden has so much support in the world?

No. It is irrelevant why insane people want to kill us.

How can we ever hope to defeat terrorism if we don't bother to understand it?

Presumably by capturing or killing the terrorists and those who shelter or assist them.

18 posted on 12/19/2002 4:39:19 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Where's that Limbaugh destruction machine when you really need it?
19 posted on 12/19/2002 4:40:21 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: B Knotts
Hmmm....box of rocks comes to mind.
20 posted on 12/19/2002 4:42:15 PM PST by muleskinner
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