ARAB BEATS UP JEWISH GIRL AT B'KLYN SCHOOL

New York Post ^ | 12/17/02 | CARL CAMPANILE and MURRAY WEISS

[nypokerface]

December 17, 2002 -- Religious tensions erupted yesterday after authorities confirmed that an Arab girl beat up a Jewish girl at a Brooklyn middle school.

The Arab teen was arrested and suspended for the Dec. 12 attack on the 13-year-old Jewish girl, an honors student, at IS 259 in Dycker Heights, sources said.

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Brooklyn Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who spoke with the victims' parents, said he believes the assault was bias-related - although it was not reported as a hate crime.

"They were chanting, ‘Jew! Jew! Jew!' " Hikind added in an interview.

No...not a hate crime at all. Perhaps they were just sneezing "Achoo, achoo, achoo!" Yeah that's it.

[Darksheare]

Will do.
But.. but.. my last name is of German descent? Doesn't that count?

[JMP]

......All you have done is denigrate the girl who got beaten up and condemn this story as hearsay and generally show no sympathy for the jewish girl and rush to the defense of the arabs and say this story is BS.........................................Don't let the facts get in the way. More details would be nice but there are enough facts to discuss this case......

Come on swarthyguy, Nobody is taking the side of the Arab girl, only pointing out that there is precious little information here and with that little information the masses on this running dialogue have built a story that is not there. Lets review..
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1) We know the jewish young lady was an honor student. What do we know about the Arab girls academics?
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2) We don't know if anyone else besides the two girls were there to witness the altercation. We are told that IF there were any others there that they had been delt with appropriately.
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3) We know that a councilman (elected in someones district, probably the parents district since the parents called him) talked to the parents and he was informed by those parents that the daughter had told them (the parents) that she was being harrassed and called "Jew, Jew, Jew", and therefore this councilman (Hikind) told reporters that HE believed that the incident was biased. (This is defined as hearsay evidence.) Hikind also told reporters that this was the culmination of weeks of harrassment and tormenting of the Jewish girl.
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Thats about it, without the aid of the crystal ball apparently possessed by many here. From this information many are ready to condemn the Arab populations of this world. Following your post we are even treated to accusations of racism. Thats very puzzling as Jews and Arabs are not different races and are both semitic peoples.
I've even been told that I was antisemitic for pointing out the inconsistancies of the article with the reation it has ellicited here on this forum.

[fight_truth_decay]

Lets focus on THIS story and not make excuses. You might
sound like the parent of the Arab girl in response: .."but
all races exhibit racism."

The facts as the Post has presented,point to a hatred of
Jews by this Arab girl;which continued into a act of violence.

Lets stick to the facts of the story as presented by the Post commented on by Freepers without "suggesting" FReepers here are racist.

[Red Jones]

the entire pack who were shouting 'jew jew jew' should be suspended. I'm shocked that it has not been called a hate-crime. the benefit of the doubt should be suspended in this case. That is how to handle this situation with sanity for the sake of setting standards that we americans can live with happilly. But unfortunately, as a society we don't do that. Remember 10 years ago when the mob of blacks killed an orthodox jew and got away with it from what I can remember. Remember when al sharpton egged a crowd on into killing a jew storekeeper? Sharpton is a hero, but if our society didn't tolerate these incidents, then he wouldn't be and shouldn't be.

Some muslims committed this crime out of bigotry and we should blame them for this. But we should also blame our own tolerance for these incidents that only encourages more of it.

[droberts]

Yes, the ethnic aspect makes it a news story, however, the only reason it ended up on FR is because it caters to existing bias, i.e. the perpetrator was an Arab.

[Darksheare]

"1) We know the jewish young lady was an honor student. What do we know about the Arab girls academics?"

Oh, so now the arabs are being oppressed in school by people who are smarter than they are? I thought grades were based off of one's performance, not whether you're a supposedly oppressed ethnic culture.?

"Nobody is taking the side of the Arab girl.."

Could have fooled me.

[montag813]

The Jewish girl will get her revenge in the long run: she'll get a decent education and the Arabs will remain in the public school cesspool.

Nope. She will have three abortions and adopt a black baby in her 40's like every good Jewish liberal. Meanwhile each of the Arab girls will have 10 children and raise them to hate the Jews and America.

We all lose, unless we deport them all.

[droberts]

It has nothing to do with the specific story here, but more to do with how the anti-Arab bias exhibited here parallels that of the anti-Semitism of Nazi Germany.

[fight_truth_decay]

Lame reasoning..a Jewish girl is taunted JEW JEW JEW then days following is beaten up. I don't think an Arab shouting Arab Arab Arab before an attack on another Arab makes any sense at all. lol

[Alouette]

A "catfight" is two girls fighting.

this article doesn't really make it clear anyway

The article states clearly: "authorities confirmed that an Arab girl beat up a Jewish girl"

it doesn't say anything about two girls fighting with each other over girly stuff.

Maybe it is as your prejudices dictate.

You're just p!ssed that it is not as YOUR prejudices dictate.

[montag813]

We are being invaded by millions of illegal aliens that are flooding into our country, choking off our social services, literally shutting down some trauma centers and hospitals, filling our jails, many commit brutal murders on our citizens and then flee back across the borders to safety, their driving taxes up and wages down....

We had a sensible immigration policy until that national traitor Robert Kennedy pushed through the ultra-Marxist 1965 Immigration Reform Act. RFK was a despicable piece of excrement. No wonder he is O'Reilly's idol. May he burn in hell for what he wrought.

[JMP]

.........Umm.. haven't you seen what's going on in the world today?.........
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Come on Darksheare. This story is about an incident at a NY public school between two young women. I contend that the reason that it was published is because of the world situation. It looks like a hit piece to me. How many fights did you read about last year involving young women in public school. In a population of 270,000,000 plus I'll bet there were more than a few.

[droberts]

Fair enough, but what you say is precisely the problem when people do not think for themselves and follow an ideology promoted by only the few. This can be applied to Arabs who think suicide bombing is OK and to Americans who think all Arabs are bad based upon what they selectively read.

[JMP]

...........Presumably you are blind so ask a friend to read the article to you particularly the part about the weeks of taunting "Jew, Jew, Jew" by a group of Moslemaniacs which led up to this incident........
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Please read my previous post. Don't you guys ever get embarrassed?

[swarthyguy]

The arab girl was arrested.

Cops today in this hyper atmosphere would not want to wade into this. They'd ask for witnesses etc. ANd would not make such a move based on the say so of one girl.....

I guess i buy what you dismiss as hearsay.

If the arab girl was an honors student i'm sure we'd have heard about it - anyway, to use your thinking, it's irrelevant- she wasn't arrested for being an honors student but for beating up the jewish chick.

And being treated to accusations of racism, that's what i was compared to.

I see this as a straightforward account of an incident at school; an incident made newsworthy by the alleged facts as reported in the paper - a gang of arabs taunting a jewish girl and a mob watching a fight. And the police arresting a perp.

Let's wait for the court case to see what happens; but it's not altogether out of character for a great many across the world, is it...Nigeria, Indonesia

YOur point 3 makes a lot of guesses...the report says the chanting of jew took place while the fight/beating was happening.

[Mr. C]

I Couldn't tell you a thing either about this Nazi business, he's got me scratching my head, too!

Swarthyguy, guess me and Darksheare are 2nd and 3rd in line then, huh?

[Mr. C]

Sorry guys time to sign off. See ya later.

[Darksheare]

Come on JMP.
You can't seriously believe that it wasn't an attack based off of the fact that the girl was a Jew.
And you can't honestly state that her 'ethnicity' had nothing to do with it.

How many children have the arabs blown up last year?
Why do you keep trying to use the fallacy of ascribing western thought to eastern people?

And you probably think like droberts, that the arabs are opressed and the only recourse they have is to blow up Jewish teenage girls.

If that isn't what you think, then you'd better re-word your posts since you sound like you're backing the actions of the arab girl.
And comprehension is fine here.
Do you know what a hate crime is? (Crime based off of one's ethnicity, sex, or creed.)

[droberts]

I repeat my earlier statement that had the races of the two involved in the incident have been reversed, the story would not have been posted. Yes, I believe certain members of FR are anti-Arab racists.