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Group of attorneys to keep close tabs on Kline
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | 12/16/02 | Leita Walker

Posted on 12/17/2002 6:25:50 AM PST by axel f

By Leita Walker, Journal-World staff writer

Monday, December 16, 2002

As Phill Kline prepares to become the state's next attorney general, a Leawood couple is working to ensure that lawyers around the state watch him like a hawk - literally.

Carl and Lauren Helmstetter are developing a nonpartisan organization called Hundreds of Attorneys Watching Kline, HAWK for short. And although the grass-roots movement is in its infant stages, its mission is becoming clear: to make sure Kline does his job, and only his job.

"I think that there's a concern that he is going to advance his particular political and religious agenda," said Lauren Helmstetter, a Leawood attorney. Carl Helmstetter is an attorney in Kansas City, Mo.

Kline, a Republican who narrowly defeated Democrat Chris Biggs in the November election, did not return phone calls, but local Republicans found the organization premature or even vindictive, pointing out that Kline had yet to take office.

"Sour grapes," said Jim Mullins, state president of the Kansas Republican Assembly, voicing doubt that the organization was truly nonpartisan. "That's probably what it is more than anything else."

HAWK will serve as a clearinghouse for information about Kline's activities, Helmstetter said. Attorneys around the state can report information to the organization, which will post it on a Web site along with descriptions of where it can be verified.

Friends of HAWK - an organization for people who aren't attorneys - also is in the works, and Helmstetter hopes the group eventually will distribute information to the media and educate the public regarding the attorney general's role.

The organization is especially important from an educational angle, said Doni Slough, a Lawrence attorney who knew Helmstetter in law school and recently learned about the group.

"Most of the public isn't aware of the things that go on in the AG's Office," she said.

Slough named one issue she expected to be of concern: abortion.

"That would be the one that comes to my mind instantly," she said.

When he declared victory, Kline repeated his campaign vow to enforce state restrictions on late-term abortions, which he says do not include a mental-health exception.

The current attorney general, Republican Carla Stovall, has interpreted the law to allow a mental-health exception.

But Kline has never done anything to warrant formation of a watchdog group, Mullins said.

And he didn't think Kline would try to push his views on abortion "more than any other attorney."

A former state legislator from Shawnee, Kline also was criticized during his campaign for lack of legal experience.

The Bush administration considered Kline last year for U.S. attorney for Kansas, but Kline withdrew his name to run for attorney general.

During the primary race, Kline's critics suggested he was forced to withdraw over some undisclosed problem. Biggs didn't give up on that line despite a statement from the White House that it had been pleased to receive Kline's name in nomination.

Perhaps an even bigger campaign issue was Kline's letting his law license lapse three times.

Kline has said he let his license expire briefly in 1994 by mistake. It lapsed again for eight months in 1996 and 1997 and for 17 months in 1999 and 2001 when Kline pursued other ventures, including an unsuccessful 2000 run for the 3rd Congressional District seat.

Kline critics say there were differences between what Kline posted on his Web site and what he said on the campaign trail, and HAWK will work to highlight the discrepancies.

"Now that he's in office, we think that he needs to operate in the light of day," Helmstetter said.

Although HAWK has yet to publish a phone number, Helmstetter said she had received several calls from people interested in the organization.

She said she hoped to have a Web site launched and mission statement prepared by the time Kline takes office in January.


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How predictable...
1 posted on 12/17/2002 6:25:50 AM PST by axel f
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To: AdA$tra; jonefab; rwfromkansas; Free State Four; TroutStalker; Steel Eye; alfa6; ALS; amarok; ...
KS Ping

Let me know whether you want on or off my list. Preferably without cussing me out.
2 posted on 12/17/2002 6:29:29 AM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
All of this posturing comes down to one issue: Killing babies.

And the "mental health exception" is a sick farce.
"If I don't kill this baby that is due tomorrow, I will feel burdened, and that affects my mental health."

3 posted on 12/17/2002 7:10:11 AM PST by MrB
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To: axel f
Why is it okay for HAWK to have an opinion on abortion, but not Kline? I wonder who will shine the light of day on HAWK to keep them on the up and up?
4 posted on 12/17/2002 7:12:16 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: axel f
Thanks for the ping. I read about this in the Olathe paper this morning and did a little search on the Helmstetters.

Kline's distortion of court rulings hurts credibility - by Lauren and Carl Helmstetter

Carl H. Helmstetter - Spencer Fane Britt & Browne LLP

Carl, a partner with Spencer Fane, practices with the environmental group and the litigation and dispute resolution group. He concentrates in the areas of CERCLA litigation, allocation, landfill siting and permitting and alternative dispute resolution. He was recently chosen as one of The Best Lawyers in America 2003-2004, Environmental Law section.
Leawood woman wins magazine’s cartoon caption contest
A few moments of entertainment turned into a major accomplishment for Lauren Ginestra Helmstetter – her words attached to a cartoon in The New Yorker.
MIDWEST CENTER FOR THE LITERARY ARTS, INC./THE WRITERS PLACE OFFICERS AND BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Randy Allard, Phyllis Becker, Steve Creed (Treasurer), Sherry Cromwell-Lacy, Sharon Eiker, Terry Faulkner, Charles Ferruzza (Vice President), Lauren Helmstetter, William Hickok (Chair/Co-Founder), Gloria Vando Hickok (Co-Founder), Bruce Hopkins, F. Lee Major, Patricia Cleary Miller (President), Phil Miller, Nancy Miller, Marty Nichols, Ann Slegman (Vice President), Robert Stewart, Lou Jane Temple, Thomas Zvi Wilson, Lesa Blalock (Executive Director).

5 posted on 12/17/2002 7:14:55 AM PST by KS Flyover
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To: axel f
Kline has a fan club. I'm sure he's impressed.

Thanks for the ping. I've been trying to keep up-to-date with KS politics. Articles like this help.

6 posted on 12/17/2002 7:21:29 AM PST by Steel Eye
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To: KS Flyover
KS Flyover, you are amazing! I'm impressed!
Thank you for the information. It's very helpful.
7 posted on 12/17/2002 8:17:03 AM PST by axel f
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To: Sunshine Sister
We are supposed to sit down and shut up. Our opinions are dangerous.

Didn't you know that?
8 posted on 12/17/2002 8:18:05 AM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
Damn straight our ideas are dangerous. I hope HAWK keeps that in mind! We can and WILL be heard.
9 posted on 12/17/2002 9:08:14 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Sunshine Sister
Good point, Sunshine.
10 posted on 12/17/2002 10:00:36 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Steel Eye
Kline has a fan club. I'm sure he's impressed.

Hell, we should do the same thing with the more crooked members of congress (which seem to be mostly or all Rats, these days).

11 posted on 12/17/2002 10:02:34 AM PST by WileyC
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To: Steel Eye
Hi, Steel Eye. (Just wanted to say "hi.")
12 posted on 12/17/2002 10:02:38 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: KS Flyover
I think, at this point, millions of Americans have been touched by abortion either personally or through someone close to them. The emotion in pro-abort people that keeps them protecting extreme abortion--late term--is irrational mostly because if they concede that it is wrong in the late-term, they are forced to question where the line should be drawn. And then forced to confront their own choices. It must be nearly impossible to live with having had an abortion if you allow yourself to accept the humanity of the baby. (Just like slavery was only possible if blacks were not fully human. The conscience is a wonderful thing. Too bad so many people spend so much effort disconnecting theirs.)

Sure, women get ripped in the baby business (or blessed, depending on how you look at it). Men have it easier. But a baby is a baby is a baby. Choice was made at conception. I don't believe we will ever end early abortions, but I think we have majority opinion on our side on this late-term stuff. All these Clintonizing "it depends on what the meaning of the word "health" is" need to play the game more honestly. They are just circumventing the political process and the will of the legislators and the people who elected them.

13 posted on 12/17/2002 10:16:32 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: axel f
As a Kansas attorney, I'm offended by HAWK. I'm sure that will concern them. NOT
14 posted on 12/17/2002 10:53:43 AM PST by Mercat
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To: RAT Patrol
Another comment that hits a home run.

I just heard Lauren Helmstetter on the news say HAWK's real purpose is to educate Kansans on the purpose of the attorney general. They're not doing this to be spiteful to Kline.

coughLIARScough

15 posted on 12/17/2002 11:27:20 AM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
I am sure they have only the purest of motives. CoughSARCASMCough (I like that, lol.)
16 posted on 12/17/2002 11:36:57 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: RAT Patrol
Hi RP

I enjoyed reading your e-mail exchange with the editor at the KC Star. They must be like that everywhere.

"Well yes, I support gun control, abortion, big government and higher taxes - but I'm not a liberal, no sir, not me, no way."

Keep up the good fight.
17 posted on 12/17/2002 3:23:12 PM PST by Steel Eye
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To: WileyC
I guess.

Graves was governor for six years before I realized what a weenie he was. I, for one, definitely need to pay more attention.
18 posted on 12/17/2002 3:26:15 PM PST by Steel Eye
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To: axel f
Axel,

Please roll out the ping list, there's a poll on the Lawrence Urinal World on Phil Kline and hawk that needs freeping.

The poll is halfway down the front page at; www.ljworld.com

The results so far are:
Thanks! You've voted for: 'It's just sour grapes politics at work.'.

Results for Fri Dec 20, 2002
What do you think about the new organization formed to watch the activities of Atty. Gen.-elect Phill Kline?

It's needed to ensure Kline does not overstep his constitutional authority. 62% 35863 votes

It's just sour grapes politics at work. 29% 16861 votes

It's justified because of all the questions raised about Kline's credentials to do the job. 9% 5284 votes

Undecided. 0% 10 votes

Other. 0% 6 votes

58024 total votes

Semper Fi
19 posted on 12/20/2002 6:39:02 AM PST by dd5339
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