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1 posted on 12/14/2002 4:25:43 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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How delightful... /s
2 posted on 12/14/2002 4:26:25 PM PST by Libertina
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To: big ern
If they know he bought this then they must know where he is.
3 posted on 12/14/2002 4:27:16 PM PST by areafiftyone
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All right! We've moved from suitcase nukes to backpack nukes!

Next week it might be lunchbox nukes or maybe even lockbox nukes.

4 posted on 12/14/2002 4:27:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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When I first saw this I said to myself, "It's not Sunday night, why is Drudge pumping his radio program with a hyped up headline a day early.

Hopefully the "paper" doesn't turn out to be, ... dang I forgot the name of that internet rag that churns out stuff from Israel that is always full of crap. Help me out here freepers and it's not al Jazeera.

5 posted on 12/14/2002 4:28:47 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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December 2002, on the eve of World War III . . .
6 posted on 12/14/2002 4:29:01 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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how would kgb agents get nukes?
7 posted on 12/14/2002 4:29:05 PM PST by go star go
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"renegade KGB agents"

The KGB and the GRU still live. Don't be fooled. I find it funny that we hear "former" or "renegade" and we decide it doesn't have anything to do with Russia...

Examine the case of Robert Hanssen and you'll realize how active these groups still are.
8 posted on 12/14/2002 4:29:58 PM PST by Noswad
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Yawn...

The half-life of the triggers for such atomic weapons is typically 60 days, after that, the weapon requires new radioactive material (as well as specialized electronincs maintenance).

12 posted on 12/14/2002 4:31:35 PM PST by Southack
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BREAKING ---

Arabs to clone Suicide Bombers......

14 posted on 12/14/2002 4:32:17 PM PST by swarthyguy
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I understand the so called suitcase nukes to actually be the size of large foot lockers, 4' by 2.5' by 2.5'.
Based on the material taken from Al-Queda's R&D facility in Afghanistan, their sophistication was a cut below the Mr. Wizard science show.
20 posted on 12/14/2002 4:36:28 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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PAPER: Osama bin Laden has bought nuclear firepower from renegade KGB agents

Since 9-11, about all these yahoos have done is blow up a nightclub in Bali,
a hotel in Africa...h-ll, they haven't blown up one major bridge in the USA
(well, at least that we know about...)

Maybe they really are going to be resurrgent.
But I would have expected some sort of major symbolic strike by now...
...at least something pyrotechnic at one of our military bases or embassies abroad...
27 posted on 12/14/2002 4:44:09 PM PST by VOA
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Hmmmm.... Arafat "warns" Bin Laden to stop exploiting Palestinians. Why would Arafat do this?

Hmmmm.... So, let's suppose Bin Laden does have twenty nukes... just as a hypothetical...

Bin Laden manages to detonate at least 2 of the 20 nukes obtained before the triggers decay. Now... I'm no fan of Arafat, but he is a classic "survivor" and will do what needs to be done to stay in control of the PA. He's now in position to hopefully survive what would follow a nuclear strike on the UK and/or the US.

Hmmmm.... what's motivating Arafat to position himself opposite of Bin Laden? Is he afraid of something? Is something going to happen and he has intelligence of it? If he does have intelligence and doesn't share it with the US - he's in denial.

Hey, I can speculate almost as good as DEBKA and the CHEEZEWIZARDS. But don't tell my SISTER. She prefers MOOSE. (she heard an urban myth concerning the size of their feet in relation to other body parts)

29 posted on 12/14/2002 4:49:16 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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Wonder if this is the reason the President looked like heck when he made his smallpox announcement?
31 posted on 12/14/2002 4:50:13 PM PST by mewzilla
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This has been talked about for some time, it goes away, then someone reports it as "news" again. I personally think that it is quite likely that Al Quaeda does have nukes and the US gov. knows it, but don't want to confirm it, so as not to panic people. I think a lot of people are underestimating the real threat we are facing.

From an article in October, 2002:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29109

Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America" and the U.S. Congress' top terrorism expert, concurs that bin Laden has already succeeded in purchasing suitcase nukes. Former Russian security chief Alexander Lebed also testified to Congress that 40 nuclear suitcases disappeared from the Russian arsenal after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Williams quotes an anonymous federal official as saying: "The question isn't whether bin Laden has nuclear weapons, it's when he will try to use them."

In addition to the suitcase nukes, Williams reports that al-Qaida has also obtained chemical weapons from North Korea and Iraq. Williams says the FBI confirmed to him that Saddam Hussein provided bin Laden with a "gift" of anthrax spores.

Williams says al-Qaida also includes in its arsenal plague viruses, including ebola and salmonella, from the former Soviet Union and Iraq, samples of botulism biotoxin from the Czech Republic, and sarin from Iraq and North Korea.

34 posted on 12/14/2002 4:51:23 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Didn't President Bush mention something about nuclear retaliation the other day if anyone were to use weapons of mass destruction against us?
40 posted on 12/14/2002 4:54:53 PM PST by FormerLurker
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I figure someone should speak up from the "Sorry, but Osama is still pushing up the daisies where we got him with the daisy cutter" camp. (That would be me.)
41 posted on 12/14/2002 4:54:54 PM PST by PianoMan
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Riiiiigggghhht.

FICTION. Why does Drudge put this BS up? Why did you post it? We get the same story every couple of months, nothing's been nuked yet, because this "story" is a work of fiction by some clown somewhere desperate for a by-line.
47 posted on 12/14/2002 5:00:31 PM PST by discostu
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Good God. Some half-baked British tabloid writes a screaming headline and we're all atwitter about who and how and where and when and what then?

Let's not forget, "And THAT'S why the President looked like 'heck'."

Get a grip, people. We're going to get stories like this from here to eternity, are we going to play the what-if scenario and soil ourselves every single time?

I swear, you'd think there are people on this forum who actually HOPE this happens one of these days so we have a good reason to "Nuke Mecca and Medina!"

54 posted on 12/14/2002 5:05:46 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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Just damn.
58 posted on 12/14/2002 5:07:38 PM PST by mhking
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Oh yeah ? Well right back at em-

Given the fact that the U.S. B54 Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM) was man portable, it's covert emplacement in or near harbors, SLBM bases, airfields, dams, bridges, airfields, command posts, and nuclear weapons storage areas was probably extensively practiced by KGB and GRU Spetsnaz (Army and Navy) at their training facilities (some of which just happened to resemble NATO bases). Under the circumstances, covert infiltration into NATO territory or even into the U.S. with a SADM would not have been a difficult task during the Cold War. In fact, Soviet KGB operatives stored tons of explosives near U.S. and NATO facilities as revealed by KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin in his bestseller "The Sword and the Shield".

The unclassified U.S. Army Field Manual 5-25 reveals the SADM had a mechanical timer with delays avaliable from five minutes to twenty-four hours. The B54 was available to U.S. Army ADM platoons, Special Forces, and U.S. Navy SEAL's from August 1964 to the mid 1980's. In addition to heavy security in storage area's, a mechanical Permissive Action Link was used to prevent unauthorized detonation.

Department of Energy Historical Films offers a short clip on this weapon, entitled "SADM Delivery by Parachutist" (0800031) of nearly ten minutes duration. For more information, visit the 463X0 Home Page and click on the DOE Historical Films link.

The bottom right corner of the page / link, has a US SADM device (nuclear) man portable- couldn't get the image to display in this post...

http://www.geocities.com/usaf463/russwpns.html

67 posted on 12/14/2002 5:13:01 PM PST by freepersup
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