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To All Those Waiting to Crucify Lott
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| 12/14/02
| TC
Posted on 12/14/2002 9:14:34 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
1. 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed with Republican support, almost filibustered by Leftists. Gores father was one of those who was vehemently against it yet they escape judgment on their actions. It was passed against their vote.
2. If the same type of things were said/written about Byrd... how would the Leftists react? Why are you... selectively choosing our "candidate"?
3. Congress has worked with Lott for decades, why haven't they been exposed to consistent racial characteristics by Lott in the past?
4. Why has Thurmond remained silent?
5. What effects do Welfare and education have on segregation and racism? Until recent years which party has implemented reform on each? How did Lott vote?
6. Anyone recall Kennedy's one way conversations with ML King? When does it come time to "cleanse" for that?
7. Which party is being "cleansed"? How many of you... truly don't believe Lexus searches were run throughout last week? How far back was too far back during the Clinton administration? As many in our who were victims, what did the Leftists gain? What does it say to you... about today?
8. If you... are going to allow the Leftists (who assert they are free of segregation and racism) to publicly assault our party without demanding they look in their own mirror, what have you... accomplished?
TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: civilrightsact; cleansing; clinton; kennedy; liberals; lott; mlking; racism; thurmond
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
good post.I want Lott to stay, and tell his detractors where to shove it.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Why has Thurmond remained silent?What could a 100 year old man (and target of Lott's remarks) possibly say to make the situation better? In the video clips from the celebration, he appeared barely viable.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
BREAKING NEWS: TRENT LOTT APOLOGIZES FOR OWNING STOCK IN THE MANUFACTURER OF THE PICKUP TRUCK THAT DRUG JAMES BYRD TO HIS DEATH.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either." Tell me how I defend this statement to friends I have that are black that I want to become Republicans?
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Excellent points. To the left who claim, but many of the racists in their own party aren't in the position of power that Lott is in, I had this to say in today's Washington Times editorial:
While not a fan of Trent Lott, I feel compelled to respond to the selective outrage regarding his comments at Strom Thurmonds 100th birthday. On May 5, 1993, the Washington Post quoted former President Clintons comments at an 88th birthday ceremony for former Arkansas Senator William Fulbright where Clinton bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom on the man he described as a visionary humanitarian, a steadfast supporter of the values of education, and my mentor."
Of course, the man Clinton was praising was a rabid segregationist. In 1956, Fulbright was one of 19 senators who issued a statement entitled the "Southern Manifesto." This document condemned the 1954 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. Its signers stated, among other things, that "We commend the motives of those States which have declared the intention to resist forced integration by any lawful means."
Fulbright later voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act. And he did so because he was a segregationist and believed in separating the races in schools and other public places.
More recently, in October 2002, Clinton traveled to Arkansas to dedicate a 7 foot bronze statute to Fulbright, and still nothing from the press admonishing Clinton for honoring a racist.
I'm not making excuses for Trent Lott. He should have apologized for his insensitive comments, and he did. Nor am I making excuses for Strom Thurmond's past. I'm questioning the hypocrisy of selective moral outrage by the Left.
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:25:38 AM PST
by
Peach
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Yep. All true. But what has any of this got to do with why WE need to get rid of Trottsky? This 'Rat Railroading is a fortuitously timed train, and I would like the Traitor to be Outed on it, or under it.
To: guitfiddlist
BUMP
Why has Billy Bubba been sooooo quiet on this??? He's not afraid to speak up on this issue, is he???
To: vbmoneyspender
For similar reasons, why should they remains Democrates?
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:34:59 AM PST
by
RAY
To: vbmoneyspender
For similar reasons, why should they remains Democrates?
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:35:00 AM PST
by
RAY
To: vbmoneyspender
You can remind them that Lott was 7 years old at the time Thurmond ran for president, that he wasn't referring to the segregationist policies of the Dixicrat platform (read Democrat platform) but rather to Thurmond's strong policies of defense and immigration - both of which are affecting us today and are problems probably the problems that Lott was referring to. You can remind them that their own party has a former KKK member - Byrd. That Jesse Jackson is an anti semite who constantly urges African Americans to vote Democrat. You can remind them that Clinton gave the Presidential Medal of Honor to Sen. Fulbright - a segregationist and racist - and called Fulbright his "mentor". See my editorial below to the Washington Times regarding that little matter. There's more you could remind your friends of, I'm sure.
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:35:42 AM PST
by
Peach
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
How do any of these facts change the reality that Lott will hurt the entire GOP as Senate Majority Leader?
1. In return for Jeffords' endorsement, Jumpin' Jim will probably receive a cushy committee seat.
2. In order to "prove" he's not racist, Lott will back every act sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus. I expect him to praise affirmative action on this hour-long mea culpa on BET.
3. How will the GOP get any conservative judges approved without now-believable allegations of racism? How many Senate battles will we lose completely due to Lott's gaffe?
4. As a Maj. Leader with strong support, Lott scuttled impeachment, agreed to power sharing with Daschle, lost the Senate majority to the Democrats, tried to delay the Homeland Security Act and has proven to be the ultimate waffler. How many more compromises will he make as a weak leader who dearly owes so many senators for their support?
5. Because of one bizarre comment, Lott has plunged a soaring party into disarray. What exactly has Lott ever done to deserve our loyalty? If Bush or Cheney or McConnell or Frist were under attack, our party to fight to the death for them. Does Lott -- Lott of all people--deserve any support from conservatives?
6. Since Lott has never done anything for conservatism, is this toupeed mediocrity's career path and selfish ambition worth losing the senate and the House in 2004?
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:37:47 AM PST
by
inkling
To: vbmoneyspender
Tell me how I defend this statement to friends I have that are black that I want to become Republicans? Don't. Of course you believe they are so dumb as to still fall for democrat race-baiting gag, in that case, why even bother with the conversion?
To: E. Pluribus Unum
As irrelevant as your post is it does bring to mind a good point; Who has apologized for the campaign commercials which depicted Bush supporting the "death drag"?
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If Mississippi had a Republican Governor, this issue would have lasted one day, if at all.
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:37:59 AM PST
by
Consort
To: vbmoneyspender
It seems ridiculous to believe that he was referring to segregation, even subconciously.
Besides, who says you have to defend him? I, personally, am in the camp that would have wanted him out of the leadership a week ago, but today can't stand the thought of a bunch of race-baiters pushing him out for trying to be nice to a 100 year old man.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And if Lott were a dimocrat all would have been forgiven and forgotten by now.
To: Peach
he wasn't referring to the segregationist policies of the Dixicrat platform (read Democrat platform) but rather to Thurmond's strong policies of defense and immigration - Please. All the Dixiecrats stood for was segregation. On every other issue the were the mirror of the extremely liberal, "New Deal" Democratic party. Why a guy who claims to be a conservative would support a anachronistic, liberal monstrosity like the Dixiecrat party is beyond me.
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posted on
12/14/2002 9:40:20 AM PST
by
inkling
To: vbmoneyspender
**Tell me how I defend this statement to friends I have that are black that I want to become Republicans?**
Ask them if Lott were a dimocrat what would be said about him? Like Byrd using the "n" word.........nothing happened to him.
Or Hillary kissing Arafat's wife...........nothing happened to her.
Hypocrisy reigns in Washington D. C.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The issue that won't die!
You make some good points, the same ones a few of us have been making all week long. First the liberal establishment got the attack ball rolling against Sen.Lott. Then so-called conservatives, along with hyterical Republicans picked the ball up and having been running with it ever since. The condemnation of Lott has been quite excessive and has only played into the hands of the leftwing. Those on the left have been loving the trashing that Lott's been getting and the topper came in Philidelphia, when PresBush slammed Lott, labeling him a closet segregationist.
What a week!
Lott should not be forced to resign by spineless Republicans and some weak kneed cosnervatives. Period!
But if Lott is forced to step down from his leadership position and then decides to resign his Senate seat, the odds of the GOP losing control of the Senate will rise significantly. If that happens, there will be hell to pay. Many Conservatives and Republicans just fought hard to retake the Senate. Handing back to Daschle and CO isn't my idea of victory.
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