This is what is being done. It will be over unless more bones come out of the closet.
Posted on 12/14/2002 8:18:17 AM PST by doug from upland
I have wanted Trent Lott removed from leadership since Impeachment. The spineless weasel had the votes to bring live witnesses before the Senate on national television that would have revealed the extent of Bill Clinton's sexual predator history.
David Schippers called it a SELLOUT. Schippers was absolutely correct. Could the prosecutors have changed enough minds to get 67 votes? We will never know. They should have had the opportunity to try. Lott is the one who stood in the way.
The RATS have been in turmoil since the midterm elections. They were shocked to their core. And now, Lott puts his foot in his mouth to give them the opportunity for which they have waited.
The same people who were not concerned with rape, perjury, obstruction of justice, intimidation of witnesses, etc., are suddenly concerned that a weak-kneed GOP leader (who is their best friend) made a really stupid statement last week, made the same kind of statement 20 years ago, and didn't want his fraternity integrated 40 years ago. We know what the South was like 40 years ago. It appears that Lott has led his public life since those days as someone who believes in racial equality.
Now, he is being a whiner and threatening to quit the Senate if he is removed from leadership. What a weenie. We don't want him as leader, but we need him in the Senate. It is blackmail.
Perhaps the statements will blow over soon. He is certainly damaged goods, but the GOP may have no choice but to keep him. The RATS will benefit either way. If he stays in his position, he will continue to compromise and kiss their RAT posteriors. That is Trent.
The more ominous scenario is that the GOP does the right thing to force him out. Yes, I believe if he is forced out of leadership he will quit the Senate and a RAT governor will appoint a RAT to the Senate.
So here we have the reason for the assault. If Lott stays, the RATS have an issue to fire up their base and they have a weak Lott right where they want him. If Lott goes, the Senate is 50-49-1, with the 1 voting for their team.
But it won't stop there. I suspect that the RATS are confident that either Snow or Chaffee might then see an opportunity to jump. Either of them could become an Independent and vote with the RATS. All of the effort by the GOP to retake the Senate will be flushed down the toilet.
This really is an effort to undue an election. The RATS, not surprisingly, are even doing it in time of war while al-Qaeda plans another assault on our nation.
We may have little choice but to reluctantly support Lott. Let's see how it plays out through the Christmas season (not the "Holiday season"). If he survives for another week, he may ultimately keep his post.
The real conservatives of the party, and those who really know how to deal with RATS, better sit Lott down and tell him the facts of life. If he is to keep their support, he needs to throw down his pom-poms, get rid of his light loafers, and start acting like a man. We don't need a wimp when we are dealing with the RATS.
President Bush made some strong statements as he clearly needed to do. Now it is up to the rest of the party to start fighting back. It is time to be reciting the awful, hateful, racist comments said by the RATS. We really do have an opportunity to stick it in their faces if we have the gonads to do it. There is no White Caucus, but there is a racist Black Caucus. It is no time to sit on the sidelines and wave pom-poms. Or is it pom-pons?
Although I am exasperated at Lott, I do not think it fair to tar him with this blackmail threat. His staff denied that he would ever consider letting a democrat governor choose Mississippi's senator.
The story is buried in that very long thread. I have flagged crusher to this one so that perhaps he can provide the information.
As far as answering to the people of Mississippi, yes that was certainly true ... until he became the leader and that makes the stakes and his responsibilities considerably higher.
I mean, the line about "all politics being local" is usually applicable. There was no fraud in Louisiana, we lost that because of a strictly local issue.
But again, when you are the leader of your party, that steps things up a notch, and Trent Lott is lacking there.
You want to really know why he's going to be out at leader over this? Because this is an opening for some folks in the Senate who've had their knives out for Trent for a while.
Because most of us who post here are interested in values and issues and what's right for America. I'd wager that there are more folks in Washington, both in the Senate and the House and both on our side and the other side, who are motivated by ego and power than by values and issues. And that more than anything else is why things never get done to our satisfaction.
I didn't hear her say he should step down -- there was a lot of back and forth and talking over each other, and I missed the first bit of them (stupid clicker !) but her general attitude was "look, Lott's a doofus, but it was an old guy's 100th birthday and he was trying to say something nice/make toastmaster type "jokes" -- everyone (including Maxine) knows he's not a racist" she also REALLY hit on the fact that the Dems. have plenty of things in their background that is the same or worse (as did Sean) and that the blacks in congress actively discriminate (against whites) today
You may be right -- evidentally the e-mail this morning on FOX & Friends was 80% "Please quit with the stupid Trent Lott stuff already -- we're sick of it !" They had a pile of e-mail printouts on the table that was a few inches high !
If I have, in any way, given you the impression that I am a part of that crowd then I appologize!
I have certianly taken exception to things he has done, such as his sorry performance in the impeachment episode, but I have NEVER opposed him, and I do not now!
Doug is EXACTLY right when he says that this is about undoing an election and they are using the ONLY means they have at their disposal to do so! The $%@@#$#$#$% MEDIA!
The best outcome would be if W could send down the guys with the Presidential brass knuckles to illustrate that it's in his own best interests to quit his position, represent Mississippi alone and shut his fat mouth.
Since that ain't likely, can't one of you Photoshop gurus create some credible evidence of Lott cornholing one of his Ole Midss frat brothers? That would shut up Lott and immediately make him immune to further Democrat criticism.
Lott's leadership position has long been in jepordy among the vast right wing conspiracy. His most recent misadventure is just another stepping stone along the legacy he has created for himself.
Lott's record as both a member and a leader of the senate shows he is neither a racist nor an able, conservative leader. While he has ably preformed his primary duty to his constituants, bringing home the bacon to Mississippi, his effectiveness ends at the lip of the pork barrel.
Lott need not resign and bend to the will of the collection of racist bent on crippling the Republican resurgence but rather be rejected by his peers for his lack of leadership
It's time for all Republicans to take off the 'bring a new tone' blinders and beat the RATS at their own game. Period.
Do you think these testosterone laden folks are going to be able to mold the character with a political leadeship IQ of about 60?
This is what is being done. It will be over unless more bones come out of the closet.
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