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A Very Sorry Majority Leader
The Weekly Standard ^ | 12/14/2002 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 12/14/2002 7:18:57 AM PST by NYS_Eric

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To: sinkspur
You're just amazing. As big a fan of President Bush as you are, I would expect you to be as infuriated with Lott's stupidity as I am. Are you a member of Lott's staff or something?

And for about the one millionth time: Lott must go not because he's a racist. He's not. He must go because he's an incompetent leader who single-handedly creates disasters for his party. I would think that the minimal standard for being an effective majority leader would include the ability to avoid becoming a millstone around his party's neck.

41 posted on 12/14/2002 9:23:23 AM PST by WarrenC
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To: KQQL
Hmmm.....Then Chafee jumps !!!......

That would almost be a good thing. The one way for the president to turn this mess into something positive would be for him to advise Lott that he needs to step down. Then if Lott not only steps down as majority leader but even resigns his Senate seat, a lot of moderate voters will be impressed with the president's dramatic demonstration that he has so little patience with nonsense on the subject of race that he acted to remove the senator even at the cost of losing the Senate. There would be a short term set back in losing the Senate, but the GOP would be well situated to enjoy a very positive outcome in the next two elections. That can't be said if Lott stays on as majority leader.

42 posted on 12/14/2002 9:33:19 AM PST by WarrenC
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To: InspiredPath1
The problem is not the question, but the answers. I contend that anyone who thinks that Lott should "Stay on as Majority leader and make life for the leftist impossible" is being shortsighted.

Nope, I have 20/20 vision thank you.

Or is it that you mean that anyone who doesn't agree with you has no foresight?

43 posted on 12/14/2002 9:58:21 AM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: WarrenC
There would be a short term set back in losing the Senate, but the GOP would be well situated to enjoy a very positive outcome in the next two elections. That can't be said if Lott stays on as majority leader.

I don't know about that. You know another message that would send is? In two consecutive elections, voters installed GOP majorities (albeit tiny ones) in the US Senate. In both of those elections, they p!ssed those majorities away because they were too lily-livered to stand up to and refute the hateful propaganda and lies spread about them by the Democrats. They were more interested in getting the media to love them (something that will never happen) than in fighting for the conservative principles that voters put them office to advance.

Why should we keep voting for them under these circumstances? I could see a lot of voters asking this question.

44 posted on 12/14/2002 10:03:07 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: CFC__VRWC
Why should we keep voting for them under these circumstances? I could see a lot of voters asking this question.

I certainly would.

But what really amuses me is the moral indignation from the anti-Lottites and appeasers who having lined up with the race baiters on the Trent Lott firing squad are now totally pissed because he won't stand still while they execute him.

Hilarious.

45 posted on 12/14/2002 10:09:14 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Let's Roll
He's bluffing. If he resigns his leadership position but stays in the Senate, he may someday achieve political redemption. If he resigns from everything, he returns home in political disgrace - bye, bye future high dollar lobbyist position - and remembered by the voters of his state and the rest of the country as the one who trashed the hard work, prayers etc. that brought about the Republican victories on November 5th.

Never underestimate an egotistical fool's capacity for self-destruction.

Exhibit A: William Jefferson Clinton

46 posted on 12/14/2002 10:20:28 AM PST by Polybius
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To: sinkspur
It's not blackmail. It's about self-respect.

No, it's blackmail. Invertebrates don't have self-respect.

47 posted on 12/14/2002 10:24:03 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: InspiredPath1
All 15 of RightWingWConspirator's friends are with him on hating blacks. Why would he bother leaving his mobile home in order to vote for one-a-them country club types?
48 posted on 12/14/2002 10:30:04 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: CFC__VRWC
Would you please explain what "lie" is being told about Trent Lott? All the Democrats have to do is play the clip of Trent's own words at Strom's party. But I'm sorry. I forget. It's all about Trent. Nothing else matters than to save that dimwit's position of privilege.
49 posted on 12/14/2002 11:37:19 AM PST by WarrenC
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To: WarrenC
Would you please explain what "lie" is being told about Trent Lott? All the Democrats have to do is play the clip of Trent's own words at Strom's party.

Yeah, that's right, the Dems never said anything mean about us until Trent Lott opened his mouth and made a stupid remark. So now we're supposed to join in the selective outrage and political opportunism of the race whores and socialists to torpedo a man who we feel is a lousy Majority Leader. God forbid we remove him for being a lousy leader - we might show that we stand for something. Instead we have to let our enemies trump up a phony hot-button issue and use it to define and demonize us, and then jump on the bandwagon as a show of atonement.

But I'm sorry. I forget. It's all about Trent. Nothing else matters than to save that dimwit's position of privilege.

No, I'm sorry. I forget. It's all about getting our pound of flesh four years after Clinton's impeachment. It's all about making the country-clubbers feel good by sticking it to those dumb redneck yahoos in the South, who all should have been strung up after the Civil War. And if we have to tacitly admit that our opposition's propaganda is the truth in order to get what we want, thems the breaks.

50 posted on 12/14/2002 12:33:19 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: InspiredPath1
How can the republican party take truly principled positions on topics such as school choice, affirmative access (not action), conservative judges,etc., IF we are led by Lott. Every position we take will be viewed through the lens of "racism".

This whole thing was handled badly and allowed to get blown way out of proportion. That's because Repubs still don't know they're up against a street fighter mentality, and don't have either the will or ability to respond in kind.

What Repubs should have done was to strongly question the intelligence of anyone who believed Lott still subscribed to the "Dixiecrat" line re segregation. He NEVER stated in his praise of Strom Thurmond that a 50some-year-old segregationist platform was the primary (or any other) reason for his speculations about a Thurmond presidency. That was an inference drawn by journalists!

Damage is done, though - but will the Pubs ever learn?

51 posted on 12/14/2002 12:50:46 PM PST by dbwz
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To: Polybius
You could be right - he probably isn't intelligent enough to see that his best course is to resign the ML and stick with the senate. And he never minded selling out the country and his fellow pubs before. Just one more example of why it is SO important to elect more principled individuals than we have been doing lately.
52 posted on 12/14/2002 1:40:46 PM PST by Let's Roll
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To: TomGuy
It could be significant, depending on the what's and when's.

The actually MS statute regarding this was posted earlier:

Mississippi Statutes on interim US Senators.

It would be the driving force on the significance or insignificance of a Lott threat/bluff.

This is why I think Lott is bluffing. The threat to hand his seat over to a democrat rings hollow, because the interim Musgrove would appoint has to stand for election in 90 days. Mississippi's special election laws won't carry the appointed Senator over to the 2004 election like the Widder Carnahan. A hypothetical interim would either have to stand for election before the end of March or if Lott waited to resign when the Senate reconvenes, the interim would have to stand in November. Either way, it would be dicey for someone like Chafee to flip knowing the interim could very well be voted out in short order reverting the Senate back to GOP control again. Remember even during the period of a Lott resignation and a hypothetical Musgrove interim democrat, the GOP still controls the chamber unless of course a GOP Senator flips. Presumably at that time there would be a less spineless Majority Leader.

If Lott is blackmailing the Republicans, he disgusts me even more. For whatever it's worth, I think his comments at Thurmond's birthday celebration are relatively insignificant. They just demonstrate a galactic ignorance and is just another in a series of gaffes how Lott acutally serves the democrats with his ineptitude. Anybody wonder why in addition to the GOP Senators, there isn't a raft of Dem Senators calling for his head. The only ones I have heard are the clowns from Massachusets and "Dung-Heap" Harkin. What about Boxer, Hillary and the rest of them? There's something there with Lott we don't know about.

I don't want to say Lott is stupid. He is the ultimate Washington insider and knows how to do the Potomac 2 step. That being said, he is not a leader that I and a lot of other conservatives trust or respect.

53 posted on 12/14/2002 2:38:53 PM PST by Credo
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To: Jorge
Ping... for later reading
54 posted on 12/14/2002 2:45:59 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Yes that is exactly what I'd love the liberals to do. After that airs, I'd predict a GOP landslide.

Wishful thinking never won an election.

55 posted on 12/14/2002 3:11:10 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: sinkspur
You're nuts. If he quits, he returns to a hero's welcome in Mississippi, can make boatloads of money serving on the boards of five or six Mississippi companies he's helped over the years, and his voters will say "Ef you" to the Yankee establishment that forced him out.

In other words, he'll screw the party over twice in the same month.

And we're supposed to feel loyalty to this man?

56 posted on 12/14/2002 3:14:40 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: aruanan
On FoxNews they have interviewed folks to reveal balance and Lott's true character. MSNBC and CNN have interviewed folks to tell how bad they think Lott's words were.

The NAACP has once again shown their true colors. So have the Democrats. The media has worked it's charms. The print media regurgitates articles just like this one. Look at what they have done here.

Even the title trashes Lott. He's a sorry Majority Leader. The implications go beyond his recent comments. They are targeted to do as much damage to him as possible, above and beyond the seemingly endless slanderous non-truths regarding his specific comments.

This article is more of a damning revelation regarding the media and it's tactics, than plowing new ground with regard to Lott. May the media be recognized for the divisive manipulating bastard press that it is.

This nation is in desparate need of people who can clearly recognize facts and report truth. For the most part, our media has revealed itself to be incapable of neither of these duties.

The leftists in this nation have demanded Lott resign for his supposed bias. I would like to offer up the suggestion that those who are truly guility of bias be the ones to resign.

Here's a news flash of my own for our nation's media. We could use more accurate information and less editorials on more relevant topics. Just report the facts you idiots, we can assess the implications for ourselves.

Now, appologize and step down.

57 posted on 12/14/2002 3:16:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: The Iguana
And we're supposed to feel loyalty to this man?

"Feel" about him however you want.

Label him a racist by forcing him out of the Leadership at this time, and watch him leave.

58 posted on 12/14/2002 3:19:46 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: jwalsh07
But what really amuses me is the moral indignation from the anti-Lottites and appeasers who having lined up with the race baiters on the Trent Lott firing squad are now totally pissed because he won't stand still while they execute him. Hilarious.

Side-splitting to see all the work done electing Republicans since before I was born pissed away over Trent Lott. Trent Lott. A two-bit hack with a big mouth whose only conviction is segregationism.

Get used to saying "President Gore" or "President Kerrey" or "President Hillery". Get ready to bend over for socialized health care, more and worse grabbing of private land with the evironment as an excuse, gun confiscation, the whole bit, just so we can make a few racist crackers happy

Real funny.

59 posted on 12/14/2002 3:27:54 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
I'm constantly running into what amounts to complete rebellion and total repudiation by the young generation over what big brother liberalism has taught them in publik educashun. Strong reactions and scepticism over any form of blatant propaganda. Conservatism if it remains aligned with the truth has a bright future.

You are on the money. Those in a panic over a tribute to the one Republican most responsible for there even being a President Bush, today, show an absolute lack of understanding of how normal people, at all levels, react--and how to motivate their reactions in the ways you want--if you stick to the truth. The slavish, knee-jerk acceptance of the Leftist racial rant, that some are advocating lately, is totally absurd. Those in this panic could not justify half of the things for which they give lip service in a debate with a true College Conservative, if their jobs depended upon it.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

60 posted on 12/14/2002 3:33:16 PM PST by Ohioan
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