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LOTT'S LAME EXCUSES
New York Post ^ | December 13, 2002 | By ROBERT A. GEORGE

Posted on 12/13/2002 10:47:07 AM PST by Kay Soze

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 13, 2002 -- PRESIDENT Bush made Trent Lott's peril clear yesterday: "Any suggestion that a segregated past was acceptable or positive is offensive, and it is wrong. Recent comments by Sen. Lott do not reflect the spirit of our country. He has apologized and rightly so. Every day our nation was segregated was a day that America was unfaithful to our founding ideals." After a week and three "apologies," Lott has been unable to make so strong a statement.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; senateleader; trentlott

1 posted on 12/13/2002 10:47:07 AM PST by Kay Soze
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To: Kay Soze
Out, out damned Lott!!!
2 posted on 12/13/2002 10:49:20 AM PST by inkling
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To: Kay Soze
Thanks to LOTT the DemonCrats will drag out the REPARATIONS nonsense to rally the blacks to vote.

The poverty pimping negroes who are desperate to bring back to the plantation all the wayward blacks...the successful blacks...the blacks that have left the ghetto, the blacks that sneer at hip hop garbage...the blacks who are over taxed and have joined the ranks of middle and upper middle class. The poverty pimpimg negroes are DESPERATE to have a "BLACK" issue....and it will be based on Lott's "cute" remarks.

Thanks to Lott...he has nuetered the conservatives, the Republican party with his goofy remarks...thanks to Lott...he has the door WIDE OPEN for the REPARATION nonsense to begin.

3 posted on 12/13/2002 10:54:17 AM PST by Caliban
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To: Kay Soze
LOTT MUST GO. IT'S ABOUT TIME WE PUT IN A CONSERVATIVE, CHARISMATIC, ARTICULATE, PERSUASIVE LEADER WHO WILL REPRESENT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WELL TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
4 posted on 12/13/2002 11:02:24 AM PST by Vitamin A
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To: inkling
LOL
5 posted on 12/13/2002 11:03:32 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Vitamin A
A CONSERVATIVE, CHARISMATIC, ARTICULATE, PERSUASIVE LEADER

Agreed, but is Bob Dole willing to come back and serve? </end sarcasm>

6 posted on 12/13/2002 11:04:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Kay Soze
Lott has gotten far too heavy a burden for the party to carry; he adds nothing and takes away an enormous amount as Majority Leader. Every day this goes on is is doing incredible damage to the Republican Party which after November should be in great shape; all because a man who had been in the Senate for what, 20 years, can't make a simple speech at an old man's birthday party without endorsing what was then (and would be far more so today) a fringe candidate with bizarre ideas in an election that took place 54 years ago???!!!! We really get nothing other than a vote in the Senate from Lott; and what we're getting back (and have gotten back since he's been Majority Leader) tips the scales 1,000 times.
7 posted on 12/13/2002 11:33:19 AM PST by laconic
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To: Kay Soze
bttt
8 posted on 12/13/2002 11:53:40 AM PST by ellery
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To: Kay Soze
Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) speaks to the press with Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (L), D-SD, and Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott( R-Miss.), following a working breakfast with President George W. Bush at the White House in Washington, November 13, 2002. Bush pressed congressional leaders to end a stalemate over terrorism insurance legislation and pass a bill in the current lame-duck session, the lawmakers said.  Photo by Larry Downing/Reuters

Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) speaks to the press with Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (L), D-SD, and Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott( R-Miss.), following a working breakfast with President George W. Bush (news - web sites) at the White House in Washington, November 13, 2002. Bush pressed congressional leaders to end a stalemate over terrorism insurance legislation and pass a bill in the current lame-duck session, the lawmakers said. Photo by Larry Downing/Reuters (Emphasis mine)
 
 
Wonder what bitter pill Lott had swallowed? 
9 posted on 12/13/2002 12:39:23 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: Kay Soze
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...mud
10 posted on 12/13/2002 1:12:17 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Caliban
"he has nuetered the conservatives"

I'm not nuetered...are YOU nuetered?! Has Limbaugh been nuetered? How 'bout Dubyuh...has he been nuetered? NO, NO, NO, and NO...the only folks who may have been nuetered by Lott's braindead comments are the actual racists themselves (on both sides of the aisle!), and I personally don't have a racist bone in my body so I'm not the least bit nuetered...this whole episode has been much t'do about NOTHING!!

FReegards...MUD

11 posted on 12/13/2002 1:16:00 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
We've let the democrats turn a 5 minute Jesse Jackson rant into a 1 week feeding frenzy. Enough of this. The democrats are good at playing power politics and they know exactly how to make us dance to their tune. After a week of this they must be struggling to keep a straight face at how easily we lined up to sacrifice the man. Why do we worry about election results ? Democrats don't need to actually win a majority they'll just reshape Congress to their liking afterwards with our help. Condemn Lott for being a weak, ineffective leader but don't participate in the mob mentality swirling around this trumped up issue. The man is not a racist.
12 posted on 12/13/2002 1:59:43 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: Kay Soze
I still say we are shooting our selves in the foot.

This was such a small thing. A man trying to make a 100 year old man feel his life was relavent. Who in polotics wouldn't like to be told "too bad you wern't elected President.

Lott made it clear that was all he ment he just didn't express himself well.


I just hope there is another Senator to take his place but havn't heard of one.
13 posted on 12/13/2002 2:05:31 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: Darlin'
Frankly, I've wanted him out ever since he pathetically misshandled the impeachment thing. He is an empty suit to me and this is the final nail in the coffin, albeit more a tack than a nail. No matter, for me the coffin was nailed shut a long time ago - this just further confirms it.

He is a millsone around the neck of the party and was before this silly incident.
14 posted on 12/13/2002 2:39:05 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Darlin'
By next week, the only folks talkin' 'bout it will be the Al Sharptons and Maxine Waters of this World, and their opinions mean about as much as a bucket of warm spit, IMHO...Lott has weathered the storm and now realizes he better lead like a conservative or we WILL feed him to the wolves...MUD
15 posted on 12/13/2002 3:46:12 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Exactly. Apparently, congressional Republicans told him that he had to convince the public before he could count on their support. I think he has probably been awakened by all this and understands he can't go wobbly or he loes it all. Besides, there are no lucrative speaking engagements, no board of director appointments, no consulting fees for disgraced senators who were forced to resign.
16 posted on 12/13/2002 3:58:33 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: Darlin'
I am getting rather tired of feeling a need to post in Trent Lott threads. My feeling is that Lott has been too moderate, for too long. But to give credibility to attacks on him for praising the Conservative stalwart Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday, is beyond absurd. It undermines the coming together of Conservatives, necessary for any of us to have much hope of advancing any of our agendas.

The Left has drummed this up, not because the public cares what anyone's historic sentiments may be. The public is interested in stands on issues on the table today--and many of them probably wish some of the 1948 issues were back on the table, but that also is beside the point. It is really only Conservatives, who care rather passionately about yesteryears' issues. It is in our Conservative nature. And the Left keeps trying to trigger a melt-down of Conservative ranks, by trying to stir up arguments over historic issues--what they see as our Achilles' heel. That is what all the hoopla over the Confederate flag is all about, also.

That Lott is falling all over himself to apologize for a harmless sentiment, is to his discredit. But to purge him while anything associated with this is going on, will not only tend to divide the Conservative base; it will be picked up by the media as a repudiation of Strom Thurmond, and those Thurmond brought into the Republican Party, when he switched in 1964 to support Barry Goldwater. Whether some of those calling for Senator Lott's scalp--in a frankly silly panic to humor a completely contrived outpouring--understand the point or not, you can be certain that the propagandists of the Left will exploit such a purging in precisely that manner.

The Left will also try to use this to prevent any reexamination of the assumptions underlying all American Social policy since the middle of the last Century--not just questions that involve race, but questions that involve the whole question of whether the rich exploit and hold down the poor, etc.. Many, who have uncritically accepted the Socialist rationalizations for the differences in human achievement, on America's college campuses in recent decades may not even be aware how deep the distortion of all issues involved, has actually been. But the racial assumptions of the Left are only one manifestation of a much broader and deeper concept--the fundamental idea that runs through every form of Socialism, including the Nazi, that you can remake mankind by remaking his socio-economic environment.

If you once realize that you cannot, you will understand the Achilles' Heel of the Left. It is to prevent that understanding, that they always scream, whenever anyone questions the interchangeability of human types, whether the issue is race, ethnicity, class, or whatever. It is the same underlying fallacy that underlies their immigration policy.

Republicans should have laughed off the attack on Lott. The correct answer was, "We are not going to apologize for a sentiment that a Senator expressed over an election that took place over 54 years ago. We will discuss any current issue. But we will leave anything over half a century past to the historians to argue over." That and a smiling reference to the fact that the Lott comment was a personal tribute to a well-loved Senator on his retirement, would have been sufficient. Apologetic arguments seldom fly. The Democrats understand this, I do not know why we do not.

On that last, I will cite just one clarion example. A couple of weeks before the Goldwater/Johnson election, the assistant on Johnson's staff who was the first one he saw in the morning and the last one he saw at night, was arrested in a D.C. area Men's Room--caught in a Homosexual Act. How did Johnson handle that? He never discussed it. It simply was treated as though it never had happened.

Anyone who thinks that a statement in honor of a birthday "boy," to the effect of "Gee, wouldn't have been great for America if you had been elected President, 54 years ago," has the same potential legs as the story Johnson killed by simply ignoring it, doesn't begin to understand the capacity for scandal.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

17 posted on 12/13/2002 4:26:39 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Kay Soze
Deember 13, 2002 -- PRESIDENT Bush made Trent Lott's peril clear yesterday: "Any suggestion that a segregated past was acceptable or positive is offensive,

Blah, blah, etc and so forth

Why does not Dubya EVEN EVER allude to the fact that the major media gins ups such as this?

And, when will the 'pubbies get down and play hardball?

Hymietown.


18 posted on 12/13/2002 4:42:52 PM PST by don-o
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To: Kay Soze
But, . . . . Where is the outrage for the Current Democratic President Pro Tem of the Senate Robert (White Niggers, I'll use that word) Byrd????

This double standard is troubling even though we don't expect fair treatment in the media. What audacity the Democrats have to make this much of this. Has anyone interviewed Byrd about this latest Lott flap????

19 posted on 12/13/2002 5:25:36 PM PST by scannell
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To: Kay Soze
I'm tired of this crap about Lott. Too many people are twisting his words around and making him out to be a racist white boy.

Bullsh-t. Everybody knows what he was referring to with Thurmond's 1948 campaign, and it wasn't segregation. While I realize that he has to at least soothe some people, if I were him I wouldn't have even apologized for my remarks. I would have explained them instead. If that isn't good enough, then I wouldn't want your vote anyway.

Lott should remain Senate Majority Leader!
20 posted on 12/13/2002 11:36:15 PM PST by panther33
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