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1 posted on 12/13/2002 2:44:49 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Summary: The sky isn't falling. Enviralmentalist whackos will *not* be pleased with this report.
2 posted on 12/13/2002 2:47:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: ancient_geezer; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Lancey Howard; TomB; aruanan; wimpycat; ...
PING
3 posted on 12/13/2002 2:58:58 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
So if they're "typically 15 years in duration" and the last one started in 1985 then it should be drawing to a close.

When temperatures start going the other way what are the environazis going to do???

Will the Europeans apologize?

I doubt it.

Didn't we just past the activity peak in the sun's cycle a year or so ago?
6 posted on 12/13/2002 3:19:19 AM PST by DB
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
bump
9 posted on 12/13/2002 3:38:37 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
The sad thing about this report is that it will be buried by the media and not read by the people, therefore the environazis win.
12 posted on 12/13/2002 4:42:20 AM PST by retiredtexan
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
There is no Global Warming nor a shortage of oil!

There is an excess of Watermelon Green Jihadists in control of the media, politicians, energy and other vital parts of our country!

Remove the Watermelon Green Jihadists from the illegal powers that they were granted by Jimmy Carter to control our energy and other needs of life like food, water, and land to live, work on and to enjoy!
14 posted on 12/13/2002 6:33:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; blam; farmfriend; madfly
Good Summary article, thank you.
15 posted on 12/13/2002 6:38:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: RandyRep
Ooops missed one...PING

It will be nice to be back at the helm of my familiar computer and off of this laptop.

19 posted on 12/13/2002 3:58:13 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
[U]ntil there are models that can pass [a] reality check, there would appear to be little reason to give them any credence.

DUH!
22 posted on 12/13/2002 6:51:21 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Thanks for the post.
29 posted on 12/14/2002 7:44:45 AM PST by aruanan
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
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34 posted on 12/14/2002 1:41:58 PM PST by VOA
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
>This is potentially the biggest story of the decade.
>The pinheads are all wrong. All the Europeans who
>love to hate America have quiche all over their
>faces. This could change the course of economic
>development world-wide, and the prosperity and
>living standards of the entire world. AND YET
>WHERE IS THE MEDIA? Rush Limbaugh, even?
>

Good work. But I have been calling the bluff of the global warming bandwagon since it was the global cooling bandwagon in the Seventies.

Global warming will be the biggest hoax of the 20thC/21stC, but the problem will be it is no longer anything to do with science because global warming is now a political Act of Faith, like the guilt of capitalists in the propagation of social injustice.

This means that as 'people' realize that global warming cannot be proven (cannot be dis-proven because the science does not extend that far at the moment) then anti-global warming will be categorized as anti-Eco-Marxist propaganda.

Eco-Marxists, methodologically will retreat into conspiracy-theory type proof arrangements "You cannot disprove that Elvis did not murder JFK".

Presently this is overlain with Millenarianism "repent before it is too late". Not proven ? Repent anyway !


Remember to distinguish between

(a) Questions of fact: The temperature of the earth in the past

(b) Hypotheses: Models of the climate

(c) Propaganda - communications whose objective is to reach a political goal, without regard to content or the basis of any statement in fact.


With regard to (a): The climate has always been changing. You can expect more of the same. I regard waking up to find a couple of million tons of ice sheet on my doorstep pretty big change in climate. There have been several of these events before anatomically modern humans arrived so we can safely expect more of them. If there had been Eco-Marxists during on of the ice ages then they would have been bleating about imminent global warming and the need to stop whatever they imagined was propagating social-injustice. Riding mammoths to work or whatever.

(b) 'Models' of climate change. Can't be done at the moment. We are OK at modelling low-noise linear events such as objects hurtling across galaxies but high-noise non-linear events, ie the 95% of just about everything else is guesswork. Modelling monetary flows in economics would be a lot easier and we have trouble doing that and a lot of other things. So when you hear of the latest 'model', ignore it.

The advantage which class (c) propagandists have in capturing the public imagination is a overlay of (a) historical facts and (b) climate models of the future.

The climate may be doing a lot of things. This is business as usual. Figuring out why is a game for any number of players. Do not be shy: Do not be put off by imagining you need qualifications or experience. Make up your own model then shout loudly about it. There is no such thing as peer-review as in regular science, with subsequent exposure as a fraud/buffoon. You can never be exposed as having no better guess than anyone else in a bar-room.



You can follow the shoot-down of every new piece of Eco-Marxist propaganda here:

www.junkscience.com


--

"Predictions, particularly about the future, are not easy" - Niels Bohr
42 posted on 02/01/2007 5:33:37 AM PST by PzGr43
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

I was hoping we could grow corn there.


43 posted on 02/01/2007 5:45:53 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

this topic is from 2002, and the following one is from 2003. Archival interest.

A Danish Galileo
The American Prowler | Friday, January 17, 2003 | By Steven Martinovich
Posted on 01/17/2003 2:16:06 AM PST by JohnHuang2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824283/posts


44 posted on 11/29/2008 9:16:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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