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I've seen one other post on this. This is a different article.

Of course the court neglected self defense. In the eyes of a leftist, there's no such thing. When as the 9th Circuit ever promugated a ruling that made any sense?

Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said the Second Amendment only guarantees the rights of states to organize a militia

Newsflash to the 9th Circcuit: Government don't have rights. People have rights. People give government authority to do a limited number of legitimate things.

"Individual rights advocates have waved the Emerson decision like a battle flag," Nosanchuk of the Violence Policy Center.

What's the most widely known battle flag? Maybe the Confederate Battle Flag? Nice way to connect gun ownership with racism there.

1 posted on 12/06/2002 7:24:08 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To quote Charlton Heston "From my cold dead fingers!"
2 posted on 12/06/2002 7:26:18 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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MWLWN LABE

3 posted on 12/06/2002 7:26:49 AM PST by Joe Brower
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Thread Linky:

Ruling: Second Amendment does not provide an individual right to own or possess guns

5 posted on 12/06/2002 7:29:39 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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The Ninth Circuit's unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel was at odds with a Fifth Circuit ruling known as the Emerson decision upholding an individual's right to possess a weapon, stating that the Second Amendment pertained to the organization of an organized, state-sponsored militia, and not "an 'unregulated' mob of armed individuals."

"Individual rights advocates have waved the Emerson decision like a battle flag," Nosanchuk said in a statement. "All they have done is awaken a sleeping giant of clear legal thinking and sound historical analysis that finds that the Second Amendment does not guarantee an individual right to own a gun."

Hey, Nosanchuk - how come you didn't mention the fact that the 9th Circuit has decisions overturned by SCOTUS far more often than any other circuit?

6 posted on 12/06/2002 7:29:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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A left-wing appeals court rules directly contrary to another more conservative ruling, and the left-wing decision is a "landmark." Then what was the conservative ruling?
8 posted on 12/06/2002 7:31:32 AM PST by IronJack
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This must not stand! Please, Someone, appeal this to
the Supreme Court.
14 posted on 12/06/2002 7:42:31 AM PST by upcountryhorseman
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In a 72-page ruling issued Thursday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said the Second Amendment only guarantees the rights of states to organize a militia, and doesn't say anything about citizens being allowed to own semi-automatic weapons or any other firearms. ...

... California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said the state had no desire to take away the rights of people to hunt or to protect themselves and their homes, however the state was intent on keeping high-powered weapons off the streets.


Okaaayyy...

So there's no right for the citizens to have guns but the government has no desire to take away the rights of citizens to have guns...

If their official decision reads like this, it should be an easy appeal.
16 posted on 12/06/2002 7:51:06 AM PST by pgyanke
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What's the most widely known battle flag? Maybe the Confederate Battle Flag? Nice way to connect gun ownership with racism there.

So you're saying that people who wave a Confederate flag are racists?

20 posted on 12/06/2002 8:00:28 AM PST by A2J
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COME AND TAKE IT !!


23 posted on 12/06/2002 8:02:14 AM PST by unixfox
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The court agreed, however, that police officers that protect public safety were allowed to own firearms.

I'm glad that the Second Amendment allows police officers to own firearms. But that leaves a troubling question: How could police officers in other lands, or armies for that matter, possibly have guns if there is no corresponding right to bear arms in those places? Somehow there must be something special about RKBA here in America. I wonder, what could it possibly be?

25 posted on 12/06/2002 8:05:06 AM PST by coloradan
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Can someone education me on just exactly what is considered an "assault rifle" in Californica? I'm not very well versed in guns, but I remember something about it covering a lot of NON auto guns....but I could be mistaken. Just curious.
32 posted on 12/06/2002 8:17:54 AM PST by goodnesswins
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"In a 72-page ruling issued Thursday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said the Second Amendment only guarantees the rights of states to organize a militia, and ***doesn't say anything about citizens being allowed to own semi-automatic weapons or any other firearms.***"


Okay, I'll bite... Ever heard of the 10th Amendment?
41 posted on 12/06/2002 8:28:43 AM PST by pgyanke
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www.jpfo.org
44 posted on 12/06/2002 8:29:50 AM PST by society-by-contract
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BTTT
45 posted on 12/06/2002 8:30:37 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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Isn't this the same collection of nitwits who said the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional?

Isn't there some way to purge the courts of idiots like this??
46 posted on 12/06/2002 8:30:50 AM PST by ZULU
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Isn't this the same Liberal court that ruled with that doctor to remove "Under God" out of the Pledge?
48 posted on 12/06/2002 8:36:09 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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A question for our resident legal beagles: Is Silveira a better case for SCOTUS to take than Emerson? This case seems to be more focused on the meaning of the 2nd Amendment than was Emerson.

(Also, 9th Circuit rulings in general tend to fair poorly with SCOTUS. I can't imagine one that cites Michael Bellesiles twice would do any better than their previous offerings!)

54 posted on 12/06/2002 8:45:47 AM PST by Redcloak
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the Ninth Circus Court?
Yawn. Another reversal...
55 posted on 12/06/2002 8:47:24 AM PST by Publius6961
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btt
60 posted on 12/06/2002 8:50:28 AM PST by Cacique
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Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said the Second Amendment only guarantees the rights of states to organize a militia

Then the 9th Circuit Court of Schlemils is at odds with George Bush, John Ashcroft, and the Founding Fathers.

71 posted on 12/06/2002 9:03:58 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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