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New Terror Toys Is Marketing War to Young Kids Harmful or Beneficial?
ABC News ^ | 12/03/02 | Dan Harris

Posted on 12/03/2002 6:49:11 PM PST by tutstar

"Army Forward Command Post," a new toy out this holiday season, has been dubbed by one toy expert as "Barbie's Dream House: The Nightmare Version."

It is a bullet-riddled shell of a house, complete with a soldier in military combat gear, weapons, ammunition and even sandbags.

There are two versions of "Forward Command Post": one for children 5 years old and older; the other for children 3 and older.

"I just wouldn't buy it. It's scary," one mother said when ABCNEWS showed the toy to some parents shopping with their children in New York City.

"I mean I know our world has changed, but I hope not that much," said another mother.

The Lion & Lamb Project, a Bethesda, Md.-based group that discourages violent toys and games for kids, put "Forward Command Post" on its annual "Dirty Dozen" list of violent "toys to avoid."

Other war-related toys on the market this holiday include a replica of an actual U.S. Army long-range sniper; a camouflage "Ride-On Tank" complete with flashing lights, machine-gun noises and firing sounds; a "Bazooka and Walkie-Talkie Set," a "Ted from Tora Bora" action figure and a toy head of Osama bin Laden.

"Play is a child's work," said Daphne White, founder and executive director of the Lion & Lamb Project. "Children learn through play … So actually giving them violent toys predisposes them and … teaches them that to behave violently is fun and acceptable."

Way to Confront Their Fears?

The maker of Forward Command Post, a company called Ever Sparkle Industrial Toys, says its product is no more violent than the G.I. Joe toys, which have been around for years.

And, in fact, some experts say playing with war-themed toys can be healthy for kids.

Gerard Jones, author of the book Killing Monsters: Why Children Need Fantasy, Super Heroes, and Make-Believe Violence, says such play can be a way for children to confront and conquer their fears.

"What's hard for us, for adults, to understand is that things that things make us nervous, that create some anxiety in us because they remind us of real-world violence, are often the very things that kids need to play through," said Jones.

But even Jones admits that Forward Command Post — described on the J.C. Penney Web site as a "fully outfitted battle zone" — is probably not right for a 5-year-old.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiwaractivists; childrenandwar; command; forward; post; wartoys
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I was surprised when I first heard the complaints about this, but then I realized the Berkeley (sp?) crowd is not limited to California.

Maybe we ought to help Penney's sell out of the toy so they would have to order some more.

1 posted on 12/03/2002 6:49:11 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar
I wonder why they approve of Palestinians teaching their little kids to blow themselves up?
2 posted on 12/03/2002 6:54:43 PM PST by Cicero
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To: tutstar
But even Jones admits that Forward Command Post — described on the J.C. Penney Web site as a "fully outfitted battle zone" — is probably not right for a 5-year-old.

Oh how totally unsuitable![/sarcasm] Let's make sure that all of our kids get nothing more offensive than a "Tickle me Elmo" doll. Come to think of it, that thing is way more offensive than anything war related.

4 posted on 12/03/2002 6:56:57 PM PST by Orangedog
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To: tutstar
It appears to me that adults who fear these toys are the typical "if we ignore reality it will go away" type. They are born slaves. No matter how well you indoctrinate your young to be compiant victims, it will not save you from the born predator.
5 posted on 12/03/2002 6:57:31 PM PST by marktwain
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To: tutstar
If the sucker moms think the "Army Forward Command Post" toy is "scary", wait until they see what the Islamofascists have in store for them and the kiddies.
6 posted on 12/03/2002 6:59:14 PM PST by AF68
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To: tutstar
These women would have their hair standing on end if they just saw the package I mailed out to my grandkids. :-}
7 posted on 12/03/2002 6:59:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: tutstar
If I had a son, I would rather he play with war toys instead of Barbie or My Little Pony, I want him to grow up to be a man, not a debutante.
8 posted on 12/03/2002 6:59:23 PM PST by Commander8
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To: tutstar
I saw this report on the national news this evening. This is a new and improved G.I. Joe doll with accessories. Both of my brothers played with G.I. Joe's as children. They are now both successful grown men who were not harmed in any way by playing with, and acting-out scenarios with an American Army soldier doll.

I wonder if the "we need a nanny as our government, liberal, whining" crowd would cause such an outcry if this toy were instead a disgruntled, disinfranchasied, bomb-wearing, turban toting, Allah worshiping, Jew murdering, doll of muslim origin. If we were to let our children play with a terrorist doll, they would be able to identify with the horrible plight of these poor terrorists.....

9 posted on 12/03/2002 7:02:34 PM PST by all4one
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To: tutstar
These nancyboy pantywaists just trebled the sales of those war toys by the free publicity given them.

libbos are so counter-intuitive.

Mr. Atomic Vomit

10 posted on 12/03/2002 7:08:59 PM PST by Atomic Vomit
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To: Orangedog
Tickle Me Elmo is a tool pushed by pedophiles to get access to children.

Forward Command Post helps little boys channel their natural aggression into the idea that they are to be protectors of our society.

11 posted on 12/03/2002 7:14:32 PM PST by ikka
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Glad I'm not the only one that sees that.
12 posted on 12/03/2002 7:23:55 PM PST by Orangedog
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To: all4one
I grew up with the old style G.I. Joe stuff and I'd like to think that I turned out normal. I went to college, became an engineer and contribute way more in taxes than I'll ever consume in government services. And my daughter makes fun of the soccer-mom-raised sissies and their sissy toys.
13 posted on 12/03/2002 7:36:01 PM PST by Orangedog
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14 posted on 12/03/2002 7:45:34 PM PST by ConservaVet
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My grandson is three. We happened to be watching a Chuck Norris movie on TV. The kid was pointing out the "good guys" and the "bad guys" - and he was right. And he was blowing the bad guys away with an (empty) squirt gun.
15 posted on 12/03/2002 7:54:19 PM PST by lctxken
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The Lion & Lamb Project, a Bethesda, Md.-based group that discourages violent toys and games for kids, put "Forward Command Post" on its annual "Dirty Dozen" list of violent "toys to avoid."

This is the problem with these anti-violence crusaders. They seem unable to discern the difference between appropriate and inappropriate violence. A gansta banger with his glock robbing a bank is evil violence. The cops who arrest or kill the criminal are using justifiable violence. Blowing up 3000 innocent people is horrible evil violence. A soldier who goes to another country, risking his life to keep his family, friends, and nation safe is a hero.

"Play is a child's work," said Daphne White, founder and executive director of the Lion & Lamb Project. "Children learn through play … So actually giving them violent toys predisposes them and … teaches them that to behave violently is fun and acceptable."

Yes, play is about preparing for life. This is a violent and dangerous world, and children need to be taught the importance of defending what they believe in. Children should be encouraged to play with toys that teach honor and discipline and the correct application of violence. We can't afford to raise another generation of cowards and sissies.

16 posted on 12/03/2002 8:10:39 PM PST by Godel
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To: ConservaVet
That is such a cool toy. Kids today have it so easy; back in my day we used to have to create our own battle damaged toys with firecrackers, matches, and good old American ingenuity.
17 posted on 12/03/2002 8:26:09 PM PST by turbojugend
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I wish I had something like that to go with my GI Joes and Transformers when I was a kid in the 80's!
18 posted on 12/03/2002 8:29:11 PM PST by JohnnyRidden
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To: AF68
We already saw what they can do to us. They will do even worse if they can get away with it. For all time, there have been good guys who have the ugly job of getting rid of the bad guys. It's a part of life.

Which is a good reminder to post a message to the military at the Freeper Canteen.
19 posted on 12/03/2002 8:50:36 PM PST by tutstar
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LOL! And it is better than destroying the barbie condo your sister owns. Hmm! What does that one weigh and how much is it with shipping?
20 posted on 12/03/2002 9:10:11 PM PST by CARepubGal
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