Vanity Fair Editor David Rose: New York Times Article "Fabrication"

Vanity Fair (The Today Show) ^ | December 3, 2002 | David Rose

[an amused spectator]

While discussing an upcoming article in the December 2002 Vanity Fair, David Rose (senior editor/VF) tells Katie "The Affable One" Couric that a New York Times article from October 2002 about Czech President Havel's remarks on Iraq and hijacker Mohammed Atta is a "fabrication".

[an amused spectator]

That's gonna leave a mark. ;-)

[an amused spectator]

Perky One heads-up.

[aristeides]

Indexing.

[anniegetyourgun]

Gee, and I always thought I could trust the NYT. (/chiding)
Shall I switch my allegiance to VF? LOL!

The mainstream media is filled with so-called journalist.

[hchutch]

Here's the thing, if there is a 70% probability that they met and a 30% probability that they did NOT meet, it's not too hard to make a bet as to what went down. Mohammed Atta probably did meet with that Iraqi intelligence officer.

Anyone want to bet what they were talking about? I do NOT think it involved which strip clubs gave the best lap dances, or to discuss the upcoming Star Wars movie.

[RippleFire]

BUMP

[Grampa Dave]

Any article the NY Slimes prints about the war on terrorism, president Bush, the economy, global warming, any enviral story and so called political polls should be labeled as pure fiction, fantasy and DNC Mantras posing as a news article.

[aristeides]

David Rose wrote a very good piece for last January's VF on Mansoor Ijaz and the chances Clinton had to get bin Laden.

[aristeides]

David Rose wrote a very good piece for last January's VF on Mansoor Ijaz and the chances Clinton had to get bin Laden.

[anniegetyourgun]

You can't fool me....I know that Clinton has already bin laden. In fact, I think he has an STD because of it....

[The Great Satan]

I take it Katie had the heavily-hyped original story on her list of pro-Saddam talking points, but somehow her researchers "missed" the humiliating retraction that the NYT sneaked out a few days later. Just as Howell Raines intended. Raines always reminds me of a piece of glistening, wet, freshly-excreted doggy poop standing on two legs. A real piece of work.

[Shermy]

Interesting how the only good articles about the war, Islamakazis, etc., come from Vanity Fair like mags and internet publications, at least on the wide broadcast scale. "Academia" is totally silent, inept, and in a multicultural (that is, america is bad) coma. How many times have you seen Professor soandso appear on TV to explain things? they can't, or know that they'll sound shallow. Can't talk about Israel all the time, so they're lost.

I've read several good pieces in VF, a magazine I had no interest in before. I'll buy this one. Part of the "no meeting" spin, a la Isikoff, focuses on red herrings - assuming that an early report Atta met Ani on a certain date was in error, thus that is implied to mean no meetings ever took place. Another rh is the focus on "didn't meet with Ani", not discluding, except by false implication, that Atta did not meet any Iraqi or other agent.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for your heads up re Vanity Fair. I will buy this issue.

Nice to see a magazine with owners not in bed with the rats and PA's.

[Shermy]

BTW, is the NYTimes pro or anti Saudi these days? Hard to keep track. They often sound so perturbed that their Saudi friends won't conform to the softer image they try to sell to the soft liberal chattering classes.

[hchutch]

Not only that, there were reports of a wide-body commercial jet at an Iraqi facility known as Salman Pak - where reportedly terrorists were being trained in hijacking airliners with knives and their bare hands.

On 9/11, terrorists used knives and bocxcutters for the hijackings. Coincidence? Happenstance? You tell me. And now, we have this meeting in Prague. This could be a coincidence. But the chances of that are slightly less than the chances Natalie Portman will be calling me up for a date Friday night.

[philosofy123]

The answer to your question is; VF customers are mostly older American, who are typically more experienced and patriotic. The main stream media cters to younger more stupid customers, who are culturally engineered by the PC public education system.

[js1138]

Where on earth did VF get its name? Sounds like a gay fashion mag.

[Shermy]

You may be right, but my experience with the mag was that it was a, how do I put it, neo-royalist rag, a stuffier version of People mag, adulating Eurotrash nobility and sleazy financiers. Maybe those were just the cover stories...

BTW, I saw some Brit papers use the term Eurotrash recently, so I guess they're not taking it anymore as a description of all Euros.

[an amused spectator]

"Vanity Fair was the first society journal. It was founded in 1868 by Thomas Gibson Bowles and illustrated by Grebville Murray. Vanity Fair was popular for its caricatures of the political and social notabilities of the day."

This was the British version of the magazine, not the current American magazine. I'm sure that the name came from the Brit version, though.

[bourbon]

I believe Vantiy Fair was a fictional location in John Bunyan's famous allegorical novel, Pilgrim's Progress.