PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST

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[Polycarp]

PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST

Kissinger Strongly Implicated in Population Control and Abortion

WASHINGTON, November 29, 2002 (LifeSiteNews.com) - U.S. President George W. Bush announced Wednesday that he had selected former secretary of state Henry Kissinger as chairman of a new independent commission to investigate the September 11 attacks. Pro-life leaders were surprised by the selection given the President's aversion to coercive abortion and Kissinger's close association with it.

President Bush was praised by the pro-life community internationally for his defunding of the United Nations Population Fund due to their association with the forced abortion and coercive sterilization practices in China. However, Kissinger was intimately associated with coercive population control as he is the author of the now-declassified national security study memorandum calling for population control - coercive if necessary, in the third world.

Gilles Grondin, a veteran United Nations diplomat and past President of Le Mouvement en faveur de la Vie/Campaign Quebec Vie, (the pro-life movement in Quebec), told LifeSite that he was surprised by President Bush's selection of Kissinger. Grondin, who with his vast UN experience has been one of the most successful pro-life lobbyists at the UN, points out that Kissinger's memo NSSM 200 formed the basis of U.S. foreign policy in the area of population.

Grondin explained that the Memorandum suggested that competition from new world powers would rise when developing nations had sufficient populations to utilize their national resources to their full potential. Thus, NSSM 200 was about ensuring U.S. strategic, economic, and military interest, at the expense of developing countries, by proposing population control including by coercive means if mere propaganda could not succeed.

For more on NSSM 200 including the actual document see LifeSite at:

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/nssm200/index.html

See Bush's announcement of his selection of Kissinger: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/11/20021127-1.html

[PhiKapMom]

Would you care to repeat what you just said in plain English? I am trying to figure out if you are saying that God had the terrorists fly into the WTC and Pentagon because of abortion.

[APBaer]

"Would you care to repeat what you just said in plain English?"

Oh, Oh, Mom---
Sorry to tell you this, but I guess you didn't get the memo and decoder ring that were sent to the ELECT.

[PhiKapMom]

I know -- no one sent me the decoder ring. I feel so left out! LOL!!!!!!

[Catspaw]

It's the arrogance, the air of superiority that gets me. There's not one ounce of humility.

But, hey, if poly wants to kick people who use birth control out of the Catholic Church to make it more pure, more power to him. I mean even though parishioners will decrease radically, with people rattling around inside those large churches like beans in a maraca, I say, hey, go for it--the purity of the church is what's important, after all. However, there is that matter of the settlements that are going to have to be paid out to all those boys and girls that were molested by priests, but I'm sure the church can come up with the dough and they don't need the donations of those sinners who use birth control. After all, they're the cause of 9/11.

[Polycarp]

Why discuss birth control on a conservative news forum???

The biggest challenge to conservatism is championing the Culture of Life in a society and political climate in large part obsessed with the Culture of Death. If we lose the fight for the Culture of Life, the Republic is lost. Any other political debate is moot.

To understand the roots of the acceptance of many facets of the Culture of Death, one must grasp recent historical developments in Christianity.

As pointed out directly above, in 1930 mainstream "Bible only" protestantism fell away from the constant teaching of Christianity regarding contraception. Christianity always taught contraception was intrinsically evil. (This was ALL Christians, for ALL time, not just Catholics. The point isn't even debatable.)

This change in teaching on contraception is the very root cause of the eventual legalization of abortion.

Abortion follows the acceptance of contraceptive mentality as night follows day. In Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the US Supreme Court decision that confirmed Roe v. Wade [U.S. decision to permit abortions] stated "in some critical respects, abortion is of the same character as the decision to use contraception... for two decades of economic and social developments, people have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society, in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail." As Professor Janet Smith points out, "The Supreme Court decision has made completely unnecessary, any efforts to "expose" what is really behind the attachment of the modern age to abortion. As the Supreme Court candidly states, we need abortion so that we can continue our contraceptive lifestyles."

Furthermore, because mainstream protestantism and "Bible Christianity" in general condones non-procreative contraceptive sex, they have no moral authority upon which to preach against non-procreative homosexual sex, as homosexual "Christian" theologians are pointing out even today.

Thus the homosexual agenda juggernaut is also directly a result of the failure of "Bible Christianity" on the birth control issue, as well as the reluctance of the Catholic hierarchy and priesthood to promote Humanae Vitae and the Church's true teachings on sexuality in general. And if you can kill the innocent baby in the womb, why not granny in the nursing home? Euthanasia too is becoming widespread, as a result of the acceptance of abortion, which came from this change in moral teachings regarding, and acceptance of, the contraceptive mentality among Christian churches.

The widespread acceptance in American culture of the culture of death --abortion, contraception, homosexuality, euthanasia-- lies squarely on the backs of those who caved in on these life issues several decades ago.

Until Christianity turns back from this apostacy, respect for human life from conception til natural death, the hallmark of any true political conservatism, will continue to erode.

[APBaer]

"Why discuss birth control on a conservative news forum???"

Nice try, but your post is "PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST".

So perhaps you would like to explain how "birth control" is relevant to the selection of a Kissinger to head a Commission to investigate the 9/11 event?

[ganesha]

Traditionally most cultures and religions discourage sex outside of marriage because it leads to the birth of illegitimate children. In modern liberal American culture the prohibitions on pre-marital sex, adultery, and homosexuality have been abolished or greatly diminished in strength. Some parts of the world like western Europe may be as liberal or more liberal than America but much of the rest of the world still holds these conservative beliefs. When people from cultures more conservative than our own look at the sexual mores aspect of American society they do not see it as a great success. They see a high rate of illegitimacy, a high abortion rate, and a high rate of sexually transmitted disease. The fact that MTV is broadcasting a very sleazy agressive sexual message to the rest of the world about what America is like does not help our image.

You probably believe that birth control reduces illegitimacy because it prevents pregnancy, but there is another side to it. When modern birth control was first invented in the form of the pill, it was promoted not as a means of reinforcing moral responsibility but as a way of avoiding responsibility while enjoying a liberal sexual lifestyle. This was followed by a radical liberalisation of sexual mores in what had previously been a fairly conservative culture. The problem is that you can't make birth control 100 percent effective. When birth control fails this leads to a demand for abortion because an expectation has been created that people are supposed to be able to get away with sex outside of marriage because of birth control. I don't personally oppose the existence of birth control but I don't think the cultural issues raised by it can be entirely ignored.

I don't see the Catholic position as the agressor on this thread because what is being criticised is the use of imperial power through the missuse of the world bank to impose a cultural agenda which violates peoples religious beliefs. I think people have a political right to vote pro-choice if they choose to do so in their own country, but it should be decided democratically. To impose it on another culture or nation by force is a dangerous form of imperial arrogance.

[APBaer]

Perhaps you heard that a bunch of scumbags brought down the WTC and have taken it a *mite* too literally?

[Polycarp]

My response was to the comments of Catspaw, thanks.

[Polycarp]

If you think its OK to appoint a man who has orchestrated the mass export of abortion as national security foreign policy, resulting in literally millions of innocents being ripped from their mother's wombs worldwide, to any post whatsoever in a pro-life Republican president's administration, that is your opinion, to which you are entitled.

If you think ridicule and scorn are going to make us back down from pointing out this gross hypocrisy, you are dead wrong.

And if you think this issue is moot, you have neither a grasp of temporal nor supernatural reality.

If you cannot get it right on the foundational right upon which all other rights depend, i.e., the right to life, you simply are not qualified to serve mankind in thias type of leadership capacity.

Kissinger would have made a perfect Klintoon appointee.

Bush has no business appointing this abortion advocate to any position beyond chief janitor. When our party is finally in power, controlling both houses as well as the White House, led by a supposedly pro-life, evangelical Christian President, this kind of crap should not happen. There are better men for ANY position in this Administration, regardless of whether it in any way relates to abortion.

Your blindness is only surpassed by your arrogance in thinking you and your ilk have won the debate on this thread.

In the eyes of the world, you may well have won. But they are not the final arbiter of Truth, thankfully.

[APBaer]

"When our party is finally in power"

I thought the Taliban were out of power and on the run;
Do you have Mullah Omar with you?
Inquiring minds want to know.

[Polycarp]

If you think its OK to appoint a man who has orchestrated the mass export of abortion as national security foreign policy, resulting in literally millions of innocents being ripped from their mother's wombs worldwide, to any post whatsoever in a pro-life Republican president's administration, that is your opinion, to which you are entitled.

[APBaer]

" that is your opinion, to which you are entitled."

I only wonder whether I can still have an opinion different from yours---
"When our party is finally in power"

[Catspaw]

Yawn.

Your spamorama has been amusing, not that anyone reads it.

[Polycarp]

#455 of 455 ^

[B-Chan]

Kurt Waldheim was a "person of stature", too, but I still didn't like the ideaof an ex-SS officer running the UN.

I'm with Polycarp. Either you're pro-life or you're in favor of sucking out the brains of babies. Anybody who's in favor of the latter shouldn't be treated any diffrently than would a person in favor of shoveling Jews into ovens. Murder = murder.

Don't let 'em shake you, Poly. Winning elections isn't the only thing; in fact, when one looks at the big picture, it's pretty nearly nothng at all. God doen't care if the GOP controls the Congress; God only cares about Good and Evil. Better a Democrat-controlled Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court than a government run by Republicans who are willing to compromise with Evil just to "win" politically.

In any system of representaive government, the will of the voters can trump the Will of God. Just another reason democracy is a bad idea. Stick to your guns, Polycarp.

[Theophilus]

Hope you have no daughters or granddaughters in the path of the Billion Bachelor - People's Liberation Army when it gets frustrated and starts looking for some females to liberate. PLAIN ENGLISH: THIS AIN'T GOOD FOR SECURITY!

Growing sex imbalance shocks China

John Gittings in Shanghai
Monday May 13, 2002
The Guardian

An alarming rise in the sex ratio of newborn infants in China suggests that increasing numbers of female foetuses are being aborted by parents intent on having a male child.

More than 116 male births were recorded for every 100 female births according to results of a national census which have just been released.

Officials in Beijing fear that the resulting imbalance will "damage social and economic stability" in the future, and encourage the trade in kidnapped women.

The data has been revealed in an unusually frank report of the problem issued by the China news service in Beijing. It says that officials are concerned by a "continued upward trend" in the newborn sex ratio.

The natural ratio should be 105-107 males per 100 females. The Chinese figure was only slightly above this norm 20 years ago.

The current high of 116.9 males to 100 females is more than five percentage points higher than the figure of 111.3 males recorded in the last full census in 1990.

The census - which was carried out two years ago - reveals a figure as high as 135 in one region.

Traditional prejudice among rural Chinese in favour of male offspring has been reinforced by economic reforms which mean that sons can earn more than daughters in the new labour market.

The official "one-child" policy increases the perceived value of male births although a second child is allowed in many rural areas. Urban middle-class families are also more likely to decide that "one is enough" if their first child is male.

Many rural Chinese women are using ultrasound scans to determine the sex of their foetus and ensure the birth of a boy, according to research published by the US-based Population and Development Review.

More than 300 out of 820 women surveyed in a central Chinese village had abortions and more than a third of them admitted they were trying to select their offspring's sex.

"Prenatal sex selection was probably the primary cause, if not the sole cause, for the continuous rise of the sex ratio at birth," concludes Professor Chu Junhong of Beijing University's institute of population research.

Female infanticide, notorious in China's past as a primitive method of sex selection, is now thought to be infrequent.

The male-female ratio for live births reported in the 2000 census shows wide variations between China's provinces.

Five provinces show more than 125 male births for every 100 females, with the percentage reaching 130 in Guangdong and as high as 135 in Hainan.

The official Chinese media have recently begun to acknowledge more openly such difficult social issues as HIV-Aids and the gap between rich and poor as well as the sex imbalance.

Some Chinese experts claim that there are already as many as 70 million more males than females in the country.

[Catholicguy]

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[Man of the Right]

As the understatement of the year, Kissinger's appointment and the Commission's 18-month life are designed to bury the inquiry. But not because of Kissinger's abortion stance. At his age, he hasn't gotten anybody pregnant recently. The Saudis have made Kissinger a multi-millionaire. That's the issue. There will be no inquiry. After standing for the Saudi national anthem, the Commission will report the 9-11 hijackers acted alone. Just 21 White Christian American-born gun-owning male U.S. citizens of European ancestry who destroyed the twin towers to protest Waco and Ruby Ridge. The Commission will maintain that our "friends", the Saudis, nearly succeeding in preventing the attack but were prevented from doing so by the Israelis.