Disastrous Wellstone Service Analyzed

Yahoo News - AP ^ | 11/26/02 | Patrick Howe

[Miss Marple]

I just heard the soon to be ex-governor of Vermont and presidential hopeful Dean interviewed on John Gibson's show.

He was asked about the memorial rally, and here is his answer:

1. He wasn't there.
2. He didn't see it.
3. IT WASN'T PLANNED.

HA! Now they are back to pretending that it was a spontaneous event! Liars!

Dean also blames Republican presidents for not having balanced budgets, and says you cn prosecute a war with a blanced budget. (Unsaid...taxes as far as the eye can see.)

[Republican Landslide]

I will eat my rather large hat if Lautenberg serves out six years. He will until the appropriate time, and then have some health crisis. This will result in a interim selection by the Democrat Governor, Jim McGreevey, and a special election on the nearest available date. IIRC, if Lautenberg makes it to 35 days before the next November 4, the special election will be held off until the following November, 2004.

So Frank Lautenberg should be getting his bad medical news on or around October 1, 2003.

Mark my words.

[Wright is right!]

"I'm sure Mondale spent the entire Election Tuesday night calling his campaign managers to tell them not to order any recount under any circumstances. In fact, he probably waited until the results from other states were in, then had several thousand of his supporters go out and vote for Coleman."

While I'm not dead certain that I'd go THAT far, I HAVE written several times in this forum the day after the election that there was doubtless no happier guy in the whole US than Fritz Mondale. He did his duty to his party and can now continue with his MUCH more lucrative gig in MN - AND go home every night and be with his family in leisurely semi-retirement. If he'd WON, his life would have been royally screwed.

And Lautenfraud is, as well, screwed. He jumped out of the woodwork straight into the MINORITY. And not just ANY minority, but one that is likely to see any number of things come to pass that he;ll be virtually powerless to stop. Plus, he'll be away from home, it'll wind up costing him money to serve, even if he does quit in 6 months, and when he DOES quit, the newby Dem senator the NJ governor appoints will be #100 on the seniority list.

Justice for the NJ Democrats is occuring with remarkable swiftness.

Michael;

[Cicero]

They couldn't call it a political rally because they had told the Republicans they had to stop campaigning while everyone mourned for Wellstone.

They couldn't have it in a Cathedral because Wellstone was Jewish.

They couldn't have it in a synagogue because (and here I am speculating) Wellstone and his family are not really religious Jews, and maybe they thought that a synagogue wouldn't give quite the right political image to TV viewers.

They needed to work the sympathy angle for all it was worth, as they did in Missouri two years ago, and they wanted to get their message out to as many people as possible. So what other choice did they have? Maybe if they had invited 15,000 somber, well-dressed Republicans to the event, it would have gone better.

[cake_crumb]

"That's a good point. Somewhere on FreeRepublic there is a personal account from a Freeper who was riding on the same Amtrak train as Democratic speechwriter Bob Shrum on the day of that Wellstone rally -- and he overheard all of Shrum's cell phone conversations with McAuliffe, Harkin, etc. while Shrum was writing the speech that Harkin would deliver that night."

I remember that post! I don't remember where it is though, or even who posted it :- (

[Tacis]

Disastrous? I don't understand that part. It was a giant party to celebrate the death of a Communist, Paul Wellstone. It freed up folks, especially, Hillary to claim ownership of ALL left wing positions without having to deal with opinions from the even further left. Hillie can now lie about being a centrist and still claim ownership of way out there.

Disastrous? No more folks that expected got blind drunk. I didn't hear about any drugs ODs, although that may just have been the local media covering. I understand the the local black hookers are pretty clean, so there probably weren't many problems with STDs. Willie almost certainly got together with his old flame, Eleanor Mondale, before the black hookers. No, it was exactly what was planned and what you'd expect from dems who thought they'd gotten rid of another Vince Foster and were sure that Mondale would win. So, they lost but 2008 is a long way off and Wellstone will still be dead. I sure hope that there will be annual anniversaries to celebrate Paul's passing!

[cyncooper]

"The problem here was that this was an event controlled by a family that was grieving and a campaign staff that was no longer in the campaign,"

I am sick to death of "the family" being blamed for this outrageous display of corruption run amok. And this analysis leaves out much, much more than it includes. For starters, the clintons entered, along with others, as, was it "Love Train"?, was blasting out and they were waving and being cheered? Where is THAT in this analysis?

[Wright is right!]

"He will until the appropriate time, and then have some health crisis. This will result in a interim selection by the Democrat Governor, Jim McGreevey, and a special election on the nearest available date. IIRC, if Lautenberg makes it to 35 days before the next November 4, the special election will be held off until the following November, 2004. So Frank Lautenberg should be getting his bad medical news on or around October 1, 2003."

Such shennanigans may not be necessary. Lautenfraud could step down ANYTIME and the person appointed Interim Senator would still be replaced by whomever was elected in the Special Election held during the next General election - November 2004. Unless NJ has General Elections in odd-numbered years...

Michael

[gridlock]

The Reverse Sally Field Moment...

LOL

I crack myself up sometimes!

[gridlock]

Unless NJ has General Elections in odd-numbered years...

They do. Frank has to last until October 1, 2003.

[mwl1]

The problem for McGreedy is that the person he wants to appoint to the seat is himself.

[Alberta's Child]

Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/777994/posts

[SGCOS]

... The family members didn't tell the Clintoons and the Mondale's to behave like disgusting IDIOTS!

They didn't have to. It comes naturally to them.

[Tench_Coxe]

You know, this 'analysis' sounds like someone examining their broken foot and saying 'Gee, if only I had painted my toenails purple. '

[Monty22]

The toon laughing with mondale, as though it was some celebration.. The son screaming 'we will win' (you lost, a-hole).

That sums it up.

[Alberta's Child]

Yeah, that rant by the son was really something else.

Wellstone must have been one heck of a jockstrap to support a d!ck like that.

[cake_crumb]

Thanks. Right poster, wrong thread. IIRC, it was on the live "memorial" rally thread. I didn't even know about the thread you linked to. I wish I didn't miss so much.

[Miss Marple]

Redleg Duke posted it. He was the one who overheard Shrum.

[my right]

I hate to say this (not) but Wellstone (communist athesist that he was) would have been doing the same thing if it had been Ted Kennedy. Win at all cost is their creed.

[sweetliberty]

"who conducts polls for former President Clinton"

That sorry SOB is still having polls done???? He really needs to get over himself.