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Developing the capability to build dossiers on all Americans
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | 21 November 2002 | DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 11/25/2002 6:24:42 PM PST by SheLion

Only in Amerika
Developing the capability to build dossiers on all Americans
By DOUG THOMPSON
Nov 21, 2002, 07:50

As part of its expanded powers under the guise of “homeland security,” the federal government is developing interlinked databases that will track financial transactions, phone calls, Internet activity, gun ownership and even vehicle use of all Americans, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.

One such database, the Orwellian-sounding Total Information Awareness System, is a Pentagon-based computer project headed by former Iran-Contra figure John Poindexter, director of the Information Awareness Office of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the agency that originally developed the Internet.

Another database, under development by the Justice Department with the full approval of Attorney General John Ashcroft, will catalog gun owners in the U.S. Using information gathered from states that require gun registration, along with data from Brady Bill background checks, criminal records, credit card transactions and other records, the database will be able to determine who owns guns, what they own and even when they buy ammunition for their weapons.

“The data is out there. We just need to pull it all into one place, analyze it and then put it in perspective,” says one highly-placed Justice Department source.

Another database under Justice Department development is pulling vehicle registration records from state department of motor vehicle files and then matching that data against credit card transactions, traffic tickets, etc. By cross referencing that data, law enforment officials can know when a person buys a car, what kind of car it is, where they drive (through gas purchases) and what equipment they have.

“What is under development here is a coordinated effort to pull together all the available data on every American who works, banks, buys on credit, purchases a firearm or sends an email on the Internet,” says computer security expert Allen Eagleton. “In most cases, the information is out there, available in widely-scattered databases. This is a massive effort to bring all this data together to build personal profiles on as many Americans as possible.”

Here’s how the system, when fully deployed, will work:

-The Total Information Awareness System at the Pentagon will track day-to-day activities of Americans through their bank accounts, credit card records, phone bills, Ineternet use and email.

-That information is then matched electronically with gun ownership records compiled by the Justice Department along with vehicle and driver’s license records kept by state governments, traffic ticket information in department of motor vehicle records, criminal information kept by the National Criminal Information Center (NCIC) and other databases.

-Additional information is added from a variety of sources: the electronic tags used by motorists on toll roads, frequent flyer and frequent buyer records kept by airlines and merchants.

-Other information compiled by the systems will include tips from your neighbors, medical records, applications for insurance and thousands of other individual pieces of data stored in computer databanks around the world.

-When additional information is required, the government has plans to use telephone pollsters to call Americans and ask specific questions designed to fill in blanks on profiles.

-The information is then cross referenced and used to build profiles of any and all Americans in the system.

“The potential for such a system is enormous,” says Eagleton. “It will allow someone to build a complete dossier on virtually any person in seconds.”

Because of recent secret court rulings in the federal government favor, along with expanded wiretap, surveillance and information-gathering capabilities granted by legislation under the USA Patriot Act and that creating the Department of Homeland Security, the federal government can gather this information without court order and other protections usually provided by U.S. law.

The Pentagon computer, for example, will connect with bank and credit card databases of all Americans who have a checking account or who carry plastic in their wallets and will track all usage around the clock.

“Such capability is necessary if we want to prevent future attacks against the United States,” says a Pentagon official involved in the project. “We must have the ability to track the activities of our enemies.”

“But the system does not make a determination of who is an enemy and who is just an ordinary American going about their lives,” says Eagleton. “The potential for misuse is enormous.”

Even some top law enforcement officials express private concern over the depth of information the feds will gather with the new databases and other question having the DARPA and Poindexter involved in such a project.

Poindexter was national security adviser to former President Reagan from 1985-1986 and was a key figure in the covert plan known as Iran-Contra to trade weapons for the Americans that Iran held hostage. He was convicted of five felony counts of lying to Congress, destroying official documents and obstructing the congressional inquiry into the affair. His convictions were overturned on appeal because testimony given by Poindexter to Congress under a grant of immunity was unfairly used against him at trial.

“Poindexter’s involvement raises serious issues,” says retired FBI agent Allen Matthews. “Why a man with his background would be involved in such a sensitive project amazes me.”

Matthews is also surprised that a gun owner database is being developed under an Ashcroft-run Justice Department.

“This is an administration that is generally considered to be pro-gun owner yet they are developing a system that will let the federal government know who owns guns, what guns they own and even when they are buying ammo to use in those guns,” he added.

Eagleton says Americans had better get used to the fact that everything they do will be monitored and recorded.

“If you are going to visit family this Thanksgiving, think about this,” he said. “When you turn on the alarm in your house, the security company computer system will record that and a database will know you’ve left home.

"When you will fill up your SUV along the route, the gas company credit card computers will record that information instantly.

"When you pay for lunch with your credit card at a Cracker Barrel, the bank will know where you are. And when you call back home to check your voice mail, the phone company will record the phone you called from.

"All of this information will go to the government and they will know when you left home, the route you took and where you are for Thanksgiving dinner.

"And if you go turkey hunting this Thanksgiving, Uncle Sam can know what kind of gun you use to shoot turkey and just what load of bird shot you're using in it."

Calls to the Justice Department, Pentagon and White House seeking comment on this article were not returned.

© Copyright 2002 Capitol Hill Blue


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All of this information will go to the government and they will know when you left home, the route you took and where you are for Thanksgiving dinner.

"And if you go turkey hunting this Thanksgiving, Uncle Sam can know what kind of gun you use to shoot turkey and just what load of bird shot you're using in it."


1 posted on 11/25/2002 6:24:42 PM PST by SheLion
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To: *all
I'm not sure about this. I would like feed-back and any thoughts that you all have.

I'm not sure just what Homeland Security wants to DO with us. Anyone?

2 posted on 11/25/2002 6:26:59 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
For y'all information... Homeland Security translates into German as... <<< GESTAPO >>>
3 posted on 11/25/2002 6:31:06 PM PST by observer5
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To: SheLion
"Can you say Stasi?"

There, I already saw in your file that you could.
4 posted on 11/25/2002 6:31:09 PM PST by APBaer
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To: SheLion
Mr. Charles continued, "By turning this bill into law, our elected leaders have not shown any true concern for the safety of the American people. They have not shown concern for their oaths of office. Instead, they have shown nothing more than their impulse for craven political posturing and contempt for the American people and the Constitution. The Bill of Rights cannot be ignored under the guise of defending citizens from terrorism."

Homeland Security: Bad Name, Bad Bill

5 posted on 11/25/2002 6:31:58 PM PST by SheLion
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To: observer5
For y'all information... Homeland Security translates into German as... <<< GESTAPO >>>

nooooooooooooo

6 posted on 11/25/2002 6:33:21 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
There is a book that is several years old "Educating for the New World Order" This book documents how the education system has been working toward building dossiers on American citizens using a super computer .. I believe .. based in Virginia. Scarey stuff.
7 posted on 11/25/2002 6:37:33 PM PST by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
"Educating for the New World Order"

I have heard some about it. Your right. Scary stuff.

9 posted on 11/25/2002 6:40:47 PM PST by SheLion
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To: smarticus
Think about it..... they have NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER in closing our borders...... they are looking for US.

I have my own personal opinions on all of this. But I am afriad to post them for fear of.........well......I am in fear, I guess.

How will something like this affect Free Republic? Will everyone be afraid to post their thoughts?

10 posted on 11/25/2002 6:42:45 PM PST by SheLion
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
11 posted on 11/25/2002 6:44:55 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: SheLion
I hear DARPA is buying 10,000 black helicopters too!

Seriously, this whole story has reached "urban legend" status. Just about the only truth in this article is that a DARPA research project does exist.

Systems like this are needed to track non-citizen "visitors" to the US. We also need a lot more information from foreign sources to identify people and cross reference information on foreign individuals.

Almost all of the remaining information items listed in this article require a court order to get access.
12 posted on 11/25/2002 6:48:46 PM PST by fleur-de-lis
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"-That information is then matched electronically with gun ownership records compiled by the Justice Department along with vehicle and driver’s license records kept by state governments, traffic ticket information in department of motor vehicle records, criminal information kept by the National Criminal Information Center (NCIC) and other databases. "

So much for the claim that records of gun purchases are destroyed during a background check. Perhaps a series of fires should break out at gun shops across the U.S., consuming the 4473's on file.

This blatantly, if the author is accurate, violates at the very least the 4th and 5th amendments, and while not violating the letter of the 3rd amendment, certainly violates the spirit of it.

You know, there is an old saying of "In for a penny, in for a pound." If the government insists on treating Americans as suspect criminals, then criminals they will become.

13 posted on 11/25/2002 6:49:07 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: fleur-de-lis
Almost all of the remaining information items listed in this article require a court order to get access.

The feedback I am getting......not everyone believes this.

14 posted on 11/25/2002 6:55:34 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I'm not sure I like this process, either. But, the most amazing part is the argument in opposition of the ultra-left wing, extremist liberal media. They still froth at the mouth over Poindexter and so, to the extent that he is involved, rail against the concept. But, even while opposing the Poindexter project, they can not bring themselves to raise the most persuasive argument.

That argument is, what evil would Willie Clinton and his white house sewer dwellers have done if they had the information that Poindexter will develop instead of just the current raw FBI files on everyone in the country.

If Willie had had the info that this project will eventually develop, most of us would be in gulags right now and Willie would be in his third term, urging Dashole and the democrat senate to name him president for life.

The commie media can't mention it, but, it does cause concern.

15 posted on 11/25/2002 6:59:45 PM PST by Tacis
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To: Tacis
The commie media can't mention it, but, it does cause concern.

Is IS cause for concern. But there is not much we peon's can do about it, but hang on for the ride. I do know that the FEDS are DYING to get their teeth into the Internet!

16 posted on 11/25/2002 7:02:41 PM PST by SheLion
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To: fleur-de-lis
Systems like this are needed to track non-citizen "visitors" to the US. We also need a lot more information from foreign sources to identify people and cross reference information on foreign individuals.

Foreign people who are interested in evading these types of information nets are the ones least likely to be caught up in them. They will use cash and multiple identities. It is ordinary people who will have the most detailed information in their files.

17 posted on 11/25/2002 7:05:23 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I did not say that ordinary people would or should be tracked in the system. Our concern should be what (or who's) information goes into the system, not if the system should exist.

For example, guns don't kill people, people kill people. A system like this should not be allowed to infringe on US citizen's rights. Any other high-risk groups in the world are fair game.
18 posted on 11/25/2002 7:16:01 PM PST by fleur-de-lis
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To: All
hmmm, looks like the only folks that won't be tracked are illegals and criminals. That makes me feel safe.
19 posted on 11/25/2002 7:23:00 PM PST by IamHD
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To: SheLion
-Other information compiled by the systems will include tips from your neighbors

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Will everyone be afraid to post their thoughts?

All your thoughts are belong to us...

20 posted on 11/26/2002 4:18:27 PM PST by packrat01
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