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No way out of crooked politics
Zanesville Times Recorder ^ | 24 November 2002 | William S. Ripple

Posted on 11/25/2002 1:07:31 PM PST by 45Auto

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:51:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Pete Gallaher's column of Nov. 11, 2002, struck a chord with me. I have been a registered Republican for 50 years, and you would think I would be happy with our last election.

My party made a clean sweep in Ohio. But am I happy? Not in this lifetime! I went to the polls to vote out of office Gov. Taft and Betty Montgomery, and to keep Maureen O'Connor off of the Ohio Supreme Court. I knew that barring a miracle I would lose my vote, but to paraphrase an old John Wayne movie, you don't mind if I vote do you? It makes me feel better to vote against these liars and crooks. Let's start with our governor.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: ccw; corruption; lyingsobs; ohio; rkba
Ohio RKBA advocates and those interested in concealed carry legislation should get to work and make sure that the SOBs in your government do not pass a "may" issue law, because may issue = NO ISSUE. That's the way it is in California. One stinkin' word in the so-called CCW "reform" bill A 2022 made the entire idea of reform worthless.
1 posted on 11/25/2002 1:07:31 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto

What part of the people rule confuses you the most?

Ohio like every state in the nation tends to elect the people they want.....people who will do what they want them to do.

What politicians always do is what a majority of people want them to do. >The problem is never the candidates or the office holders. Your problem is with the people and what they want to do. If you could get 70 percent of the population in favor of every one carrying a gun, the Republicans would introduce it and the Democrats would try to add an amendment providing free guns for the poor. They would fight for 3 weeks then pass concealed carry for everyone with a compromise amendment that says poor and blacks wouild get a 50 percent discount on Saturday night specials.

If you do not have a majority of the voting public with you on an issue it will not be enactied.

What part of the people rule ticks you off the most?


2 posted on 11/25/2002 1:44:09 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
I can't speak for Mr. Ripple, but in case you haven't noticed, the US is NOT a pure democracy; it is a Constitutional Republic complete with a Bill of Rights that says, in effect, that no matter how big a majority wants to have this or that law, that the law must pass Constitutional muster, or it is null and void.

The Constitution does contain methodology for its amendment. As far as I know, the 2nd has not been repealed through this process. Therefore, all gun laws that infringe on the RIGHT to keep and bear are unconstitutional and therefore, null and void. The Bill of Rights was intended to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority as well as from the tyranny of would-be elected dictators.

3 posted on 11/25/2002 2:20:09 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Common Tator
The very purpose of a Bill of Rights is to protect the individual from the whim of a passing majority, whether benign or malicious. Laws that violate individual rights are best nullified by massive civil disobediance. This does relate to your appeal to democracy. The civil disobediance isn't massive enough. This isn't accidental as there is a concerted consensus manipulation process underway (media bias being only a small part).

As far as politicians, they can be controlled or at least influenced by small marginal groups who can inflict pain on them. This usually requires a level of activism and 'busy-bodiness' that conservatives disdain.

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who want to run the show, those who want to be taken care of, and those who want to be left alone. There are always more of the first two than the latter. Even when there are not those lopsided demographics, consensus manipulation can keep a large constituency (eg. the 80 million gun owners) from ever being an effective democratic voting block. This allows the 4 million NRA members to be painted as 'extremists' rather than as some sort of vanguard or pillar of values.

4 posted on 11/25/2002 2:43:56 PM PST by LibTeeth
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