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Four telltale themes: Anti-Muslim bigotry `spreading like wildfire'
Toronto Star ^ | Nov. 24, 2002 | HAROON SIDDIQUI

Posted on 11/24/2002 2:08:20 PM PST by polemikos

"The disease of apologetics." That's what he calls it.

"For a century, Muslims have seen their primary function as defending Islam. Not to honour Islam by critically engaging it and rethinking it and making sure that it remains viable and moral and humane, but to defend it.

"They see their role primarily as marketing agents, as cheerleaders, offering the same old excuses, attributing the problems to culture or customs or colonialism or Orientalism."

The speaker is Dr. Khaled Abou el-Fadl, professor of law at UCLA. The Kuwait-born and Egyptian-trained Arab scholar and prolific author has emerged as a prominent Muslim dissident in the West.

As outlined in my column Thursday, and on the Religion page yesterday, he has questioned Islamic orthodoxy on a host of issues — from the treatment of women to the ban on music and dogs. He has attacked conservative theologians for robbing Islam of its humanism and pluralism, making it puritanical and intolerant.

But Abou el-Fadl is an equal opportunity offender. He is a strong critic of American policies as well as post-Sept. 11 anti-Islamism, themes he also enunciated in an interview during a visit to Toronto.

"The demonization of Muslims is well-camouflaged," he said. "It's not like the vulgar bigotry against the Japanese in World War II or against the Chinese a century ago. This is more refined, more subtle, highly intellectualized and thus more dangerous."

Look, Abou el-Fadl said, for these four telltale themes:

"The most insidious is that Muslims have existed fundamentally and irreparably in a state of conflict with the Judeo-Christian civilization. It's a claim that gives the Islamic threat a certain historical inevitability: `Well, you know it was like that in history and will remain like that.'"

Abou el-Fadl cited Bernard Lewis, American scholar on Islam. "He was once asked in an interview, `After you told us about all these problems with Muslims, what do we do?' And he said, in effect, `Well, there's nothing we can do. They are just the way they are. They're just going to hate us and go after us.'"

The second tactic posits Islam as "a fascist ideology, fundamentally aggressive or fundamentally totalitarian."

This ignores all the competing traditions in Islam and holds up the most marginal and fanatical Muslims as the true representatives of the faith.

The third is the "sleeper jihad" theory — that even if it is non-violent, such as the jihad of conscience, "its precepts are such that they can always have a radicalizing potential upon any and all Muslims. So that any moderate, tolerant Muslim can be sitting around and suddenly something might happen to trigger the jihad ideology in him and make him violent. Like a keg of dynamite that could explode at any time!

"This is wonderfully simplistic and conspiratorial, with a James Bond-type deviousness to it."

The fourth technique is not to blame Islam per se but political Islam. The faith is fine so long as "it's a completely private creed, practised solely in the confines of the home.

"But the moment it wants to engage the world, it's dangerous." All politically active Muslims can, therefore, be dismissed as "zealots or fanatics."

Such bigotry was once confined to a handful of academics and government officials. But it has been "spreading like wildfire since Sept. 11." It has infected "many elements of the American intelligentsia and others influential in drawing up legislation, immigration laws and American foreign policy."

Abou el-Fadl attributes its success, first, to ignorance: "Academics and journalists won't dream of doing this with Christianity or Judaism, even Buddhism and Hinduism, because the intellectual bar for discourse there is high. But for Islam, the standard is abysmally low, abysmally low."

He also blames "scholars with political agendas who think the history of Islam begins and ends with Israel. A huge chunk of sympathizers of Israel have, for some reason, convinced themselves that the only way to keep Israel safe and happy is to constantly smack Islam on the head. The Christian right -- given far more space in government and in politics under President Bush -- has also been at the forefront of demonizing Islam. But I think all this is self-destructive, frankly. When you get into the habit of hating a people religiously, as the Islamic experience has shown, it's only a matter of time before you turn it inward and against each other. It will catch up."

As for the Bush administration's security agenda, Abou el-Fadl called it "a disaster for civil rights." Besides the mass arrests and racial profiling of Muslims and Arabs, refugees from selected countries are being denied asylum. And, most disturbing to him as an activist for Human Rights Watch, the business of torturing detainees is being farmed out to client states -- Syria, Saudi Arabia and his native Egypt.

All this, he said, is "fundamentally altering the humanitarian character of the United States."


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1 posted on 11/24/2002 2:08:20 PM PST by polemikos
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Dr. Khaled Abou el-Fadl ... professor of law at UCLA ... Egyptian-trained Arab scholar ... prominent Muslim dissident in the West.

A 3-fer
2 posted on 11/24/2002 2:09:52 PM PST by polemikos
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To: polemikos
Show me anything in the Koran that says Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion.
3 posted on 11/24/2002 2:10:48 PM PST by Sparta
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To: polemikos
Muslims have existed fundamentally and irreparably in a state of conflict with the Judeo-Christian civilization.

Who's holding 1,000 year-old grudges?
4 posted on 11/24/2002 2:11:26 PM PST by polemikos
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To: polemikos
This ignores all the competing traditions in Islam and holds up the most marginal and fanatical Muslims as the true representatives of the faith.

How about we hold up the fact that all nations with majority Muslim rule persecute those of other faiths.

5 posted on 11/24/2002 2:14:28 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: polemikos
The second tactic posits Islam as "a fascist ideology, fundamentally aggressive or fundamentally totalitarian."

As long as violent thugs can:
- rise to the top of the organization
- intimidate their neighbors
- sponsor murder, theft, etc.
it will be put me in mind of a criminal organization.
The fact that they want temporal political power makes it fascist.
6 posted on 11/24/2002 2:16:59 PM PST by polemikos
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The third is the "sleeper jihad" theory -- "This is wonderfully simplistic and conspiratorial"

And should be ignored (except for the scads of anecdotal evidence that otherwise normal people have decided time and time again to become jihadists.)
7 posted on 11/24/2002 2:20:42 PM PST by polemikos
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All politically active Muslims can, therefore, be dismissed as "zealots or fanatics."

Unless political movements can be isolated from the islamists, it will be ever so.
8 posted on 11/24/2002 2:22:26 PM PST by polemikos
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As long as they go around killing innocent women and children because they are infidels, it's bound to give Islam a bad name. And as long as they go around DEFENDING the Muslims who kill innocent women and children, it will give Islam a bad name.

And, as a matter of fact, they might try giving women and dogs a break, too.
9 posted on 11/24/2002 2:23:20 PM PST by Cicero
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To: polemikos
All Muslims by reciting the Shehada have invited Satan, the same Evil One who dictated the Koran to Muhammad, to enter their own soul and body and possess them. All the world is a proof that Satan has indeed so entered into tens of millions: every day's news shows it, Nigeria just the latest.

If there is a Muslim that Satan has NOT entered, well, he MIGHT at any time, Satan could pull his chain any time at all, but those wild evil eyes show us that the fiery demon has already taken up residence in nearly all cases.

Look into their eyes, I tell you, in Beirut or Jerusalem. Even if they dressed the same, Muslim eyes are frightening and frightful, while Christian eyes show the gentleness and decency of the Lord Jesus Christ.

10 posted on 11/24/2002 2:25:17 PM PST by crystalk
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All this, he said, is "fundamentally altering the humanitarian character of the United States."

Those 19 of Islamic inclination on 9-11 helped.
Shoebomber Reid of Islamic inclination helped.
Taliban Johnny from Marin County of Islamic inclination helped.
John Padilla of Islamic inclination helped.
Snipers John Mohammad and Malvo of Islamic inclination helped.

Do we see a pattern? I'm inclined to think so.
11 posted on 11/24/2002 2:25:27 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: polemikos
I wonder how this turdhead's flying lessons are coming along?
12 posted on 11/24/2002 2:25:41 PM PST by donozark
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To: Cicero
And, as a matter of fact, they might try giving women and dogs a break, too.

You are such a radical ;-)
13 posted on 11/24/2002 2:25:53 PM PST by polemikos
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To: Sparta
The only thing the koran says is.. It's a religion. It demands it is a religion.

What a load a BS.

F the koran. F islam. F mooselimbs.

F the entire lot of them.
14 posted on 11/24/2002 2:26:23 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
islam/cult is the enemy of America and the world
15 posted on 11/24/2002 2:28:15 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Cicero
Celebrating the deaths of Christians and Jews doesn't help the picture any either.

Nam Vet

16 posted on 11/24/2002 2:28:51 PM PST by Nam Vet
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To: polemikos; RnMomof7; xzins; OrthodoxPresbyterian; He Rides A White Horse; Mark17
First he says this: "Abou el-Fadl attributes its success [demonizing Islam], first, to ignorance: "Academics and journalists won't dream of doing this with Christianity..."
Thereby showing his own ignorance of (or willingness to ignore) the very low bar that exists in this country with respect to demonizing Christians and Christianity. The Left and their media friends are quite good at it. In fact, his next statement is evidence that he is quite free to say what he will about Christianity.

Then he says this: "The Christian right -- given far more space in government and in politics under President Bush -- has also been at the forefront of demonizing Islam".
Thereby showing his ignorance (or willingness to ignore) the difference between hating false teaching and hating a people who are lost to the falsehood.

And there is so much more in his 4 points.....where to begin....

17 posted on 11/24/2002 2:29:03 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: TomGuy
Do we see a pattern? I'm inclined to think so.

Well, according to the good professor, its your creeping intellectualized, subtle and refined racism.
18 posted on 11/24/2002 2:30:09 PM PST by polemikos
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"The most insidious is that Muslims have existed fundamentally and irreparably in a state of conflict with the Judeo-Christian civilization. It's a claim that gives the Islamic threat a certain historical inevitability: `Well, you know it was like that in history and will remain like that.'"
Abou el-Fadl cited Bernard Lewis, American scholar on Islam. "He was once asked in an interview, `After you told us about all these problems with Muslims, what do we do?' And he said, in effect, `Well, there's nothing we can do. They are just the way they are. They're just going to hate us and go after us.'"

Don't know too much about Bernard Lewis but I can't argue with his statement. I note that people of a different religion but from the same ethnic group behave murderously when under the subjugation of Islam but not otherwise
The second tactic posits Islam as "a fascist ideology, fundamentally aggressive or fundamentally totalitarian."
This ignores all the competing traditions in Islam and holds up the most marginal and fanatical Muslims as the true representatives of the faith.

OK. How come the peaceful Muslims who vastly outnumber the crazy ones don't round up the bad ones in their neighborhoods?
The third is the "sleeper jihad" theory — that even if it is non-violent, such as the jihad of conscience, "its precepts are such that they can always have a radicalizing potential upon any and all Muslims. So that any moderate, tolerant Muslim can be sitting around and suddenly something might happen to trigger the jihad ideology in him and make him violent. Like a keg of dynamite that could explode at any time!
"This is wonderfully simplistic and conspiratorial, with a James Bond-type deviousness to it."

Wow! the destruction of the WTC was only a movie?
The fourth technique is not to blame Islam per se but political Islam. The faith is fine so long as "it's a completely private creed, practised solely in the confines of the home.
Sharia prevents the separation of the political from the faith part.

Islam prevents people from acquiring critical reasoning skills but anyways awards doctorate degrees to broken minds. God save us from Islam.

19 posted on 11/24/2002 2:31:07 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: polemikos
Dr. Khaled Abou el-Fadl ... professor of law at UCLA ... Egyptian-trained Arab scholar ... prominent Muslim dissident in the West.

A 3-fer


What am I talking about?!? The guy's:
- an academic
- a lawyer
- a muslim apologist
- a leftist

Talk about your cognitive dissonance.
20 posted on 11/24/2002 2:36:28 PM PST by polemikos
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