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GOP targets Tancredo
Newsmax.com ^ | 11-19-02 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/20/2002 7:21:40 AM PST by nonliberal

GOP Targets Pro-borders Tancredo

Rep. Tom Tancredo, the nation's most outspoken opponent of the invasion of illegal aliens, is being targeted for defeat - not by the Democrats, but by the GOP establishment.

Just last week Tancredo, R-Colo., crushed his Democrat challenger by 37 points. But the moderates and liberals see him as a conservative loose cannon packed with ammo.

His "criticisms of President Bush's immigration policy bought him a 40-minute rebuke earlier this year from Bush adviser Karl Rove, who, in the Congressman's own words, warned him 'never to darken the door of the White House again,'" Roll Call reported Monday.

"I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a primary" in 2004, said Floyd Ciruli, an independent Colorado pollster. "It's a given."

Possible Republican rivals in '04 include popular state Treasurer Mike Coffman, state Sen. Jim Dyer and former Arapahoe County Commissioner Steve Ward. Democrats have given up on the conservative district south of Denver.

Tancredo's other capital crime, in addition to urging that the U.S. actually maintain its borders, is violating his pledge to serve only three terms. (Note that Democrats didn't raise a fit - publicly, at least - when the late Sen. Paul Wellstone made the mistake of breaking his word not to run again.)

Roll Call says "Tancredo is not one of the president's favorite people. Earlier this year, the Congressman accused Bush of pandering to Hispanic voters and trying to prop up Mexican President Vicente Fox by offering amnesty to certain undocumented immigrants. That declaration brought an angry 40-minute phone call from Rove, and Bush pointedly failed to introduce Tancredo to the crowd during a political rally in Colorado in September."

Ciruli said Tancredo's views on immigration were in line with his constituents'.

"Nobody who's going to argue the soft side of immigration is going to beat him in the Republican primary, or even in the general," he said.

Oops: Tancredo, founder of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, was embarrassed earlier this year when it was revealed that a house contractor he had hired employed illegal aliens, Roll Call reported.

But as the congressman said at the time: "I hired a reputable company, I did not hire the labor. It is the government's responsibility to enforce our immigration laws, and if the INS were doing its job, no illegal immigrant would be available to violate our labor laws."


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To: Deb
Karl Rove fired teh first shot here and it was reported in Roll Call

TARGET: Tom Tancredo (Warned "never to darken the door of the White House again.")
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/791503/posts

41 posted on 11/20/2002 3:10:43 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew
Let me help you with your link. I don't put much stock in it. Sounds like Congressman TermLimits got hoisted by his own petard and is blaming the big bad White House. Note the "darkening" comment comes from Tancredo's lips.
42 posted on 11/20/2002 3:14:41 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Lion's Cub
". They were willing to lose California rather than see Simon win. He was doing OK as far as I know until Bush sent his people went out there to split the party."

I'm "out there" and never heard of Bush sending his people here, to split the party.

I did notice a weak, incompetent campaign, run by Simon.

43 posted on 11/20/2002 3:18:00 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: AmishDude
Tancredo won re-election by a 37% margin in a 3-way race after announcing that this would not be his last term.

As for the Roll-Call article, they contacted the Whitehouse and Rove did not deny the story.

44 posted on 11/20/2002 3:19:12 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew
As for the Roll-Call article, they contacted the Whitehouse and Rove did not deny the story.

You can't necessarily judge anything by that. Despite the tempest, FR is really a teapot and it's a nothing story nationally, but denying it puts the story on the front burner. Tancredo does not offer the "darken" statement as a direct quote. It doesn't sound like the White House. After all, he's a very minor one out of 435 in an ultra-safe district, I doubt he's on Rove's radar screen.

45 posted on 11/20/2002 3:25:34 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: rmlew
Okay. I read the article you linked to. Roll Call doesn't claim that the WH is planning to take down Tancredo -- but given the things Tancredo has said about the President, I wouldn't blame them if they did.
46 posted on 11/20/2002 3:50:00 PM PST by Brandon
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To: nonliberal; ffrancone; Deb

I'd like to know how they verified that it was a pointedly failure to introduce by President Bush... I wonder who was the one to verify that as I'd think only President Bush would know if he did indeed do that.... but IMO he didn't

Another view from a freeper who was in attendance and I believe is in Tancredo's district..... ff, using your post and pinging you to it. Hope you don't mind.


Tan is in a secure district I'd guess.
47 posted on 11/20/2002 3:50:39 PM PST by deport
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To: nonliberal
He turned into another Buchanan: The messenger drowning out the message.
48 posted on 11/20/2002 3:57:56 PM PST by Consort
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To: RicocheT
Pete Wilson made similar comments when California was being overrun and was broke due to health-care and welfare payments to illegals. Wilson's comments were seized on by CA Democrats to win Hispanic voters to the Democrats.

Hispanic voters were Democrats long before Wilson came around. Before you decide to castigate Pete Wilson, he WON that election, as did the ballot initiative he was pushing. The electoral record in California is that only Republicans who take a hard line on immigration win. Lunghren and Simon were soft on immigration.

The message Republicans must get out is that we offer economic and social opportunity to all citizens and legal immigrants. Republicans do believe the defense of America includes secure borders. Illegals of all nationalities should be found and deported.

This was exactly Pete Wilson's position.

Framed that way, legal Hispanics will vote Republican

In your dreams.

49 posted on 11/20/2002 4:02:34 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: rmlew
A Must Read by Everyone on the subject of immigration (click on picture)


The Hardcover edition.


50 posted on 11/20/2002 4:08:36 PM PST by Cacique
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To: deport
Incredible. A thread grows to over a thousands posts and the whole thing turns out to be bogus.

The problem with Tancredo and the lemmings who fling themselves over the cliff is, no one will pay attention to any of them when a real threat appears.

Thanks for using my post to ping folks. I might have missed it.

51 posted on 11/20/2002 4:41:17 PM PST by Deb
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To: Jimer
The media wont let anything else happen. They make Tancredo the isse as does the RNC.
52 posted on 11/20/2002 4:42:47 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew
What do you think I was talking about?

The story is bullshit. Read post #47 and learn something.

53 posted on 11/20/2002 4:47:29 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb; deport
What's even more incredible is that here we have YET ANOTHER rip off by Newsmax of somebody else's news article -- based, of course, on ONLY Tom Tancredo's reporting of what Karl Rove said to him.

Still no named sources. Still nothing credible.

54 posted on 11/20/2002 4:51:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: rmlew
TARGET: Tom Tancredo (Warned "never to darken the door of the White House again.")

Can you possibly post the EXACT QUOTE where that was said to Tancredo, and WHO said it to him?

And I do not mean what Tancredo SAID they/whoever said to him. I mean post something to PROVE that allegations.

55 posted on 11/20/2002 4:53:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Deb
Read the whole articl. Don't just take the weakest point for a straw-man arguement.
56 posted on 11/20/2002 4:55:59 PM PST by rmlew
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To: nonliberal
I hope all the posters on this thread hold their nerve and do the right thing in 2004. If we don't stand behind a man of principle, who upholds his oath, if we allow him to be hung out to dry, who are we really?
57 posted on 11/20/2002 4:57:28 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: rmlew
We already READ this same article days ago.

Where is the direct quote from ANYBODY at the White House telling Tancredo "not to darken the doors of the White House ever again?"

58 posted on 11/20/2002 4:59:08 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Howlin, this crap has been out there for many months now. I"m not sure why it's surfacing again other than Tan needs some attention or exposure for some reason. Click this and go to the bottom few paragraphs and it talks some about Tan's displeasure.
59 posted on 11/20/2002 5:01:16 PM PST by deport
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To: Deb
Incredible. A thread grows to over a thousands posts and the whole thing turns out to be bogus.

They(the Tancredo cultists on FR) are our little Tom Daschles, IMHO, the only difference is that they aren't elected to leadership like the daschles, mcauliffes, pelosis, and hillarys as in the suicide party.

60 posted on 11/20/2002 5:04:20 PM PST by Dane
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