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L. Neil Smith was the Arizona Libertarian Party's presidential candidate in 2000. Smith ran against Harry Browne in the primary, and the Arizona LP refused to go with the national party's endorsement of Browne.
1 posted on 11/17/2002 5:08:06 PM PST by Commie Basher
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woman's right to sovereignty over her own body

Since when is a growing baby part of a woman's "body"? If it is then why not allow her to murder the child after it is born? Extend the logic and I should have the right to kill anyone as long as they are inside my home...based on my "sovreignty over my own property".

I used to have some respect for Libertarians, but no longer. They are revoltingly misguided and selfish.

41 posted on 11/17/2002 10:33:03 PM PST by montag813
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As hard as it may once have been to conceive, from the standpoint of individual liberty, Republicans are vastly worse than Democrats. George Junior has managed to make Bill Clinton look like a statesman. The only strategy libertarians ought to follow -- the only one that works for us, apparently -- is to prevent the election of as many of these goose-stepping imbeciles as possible. If it were up to me, I'd dedicate all of the Libertarian Party's resources to that and nothing else.

This is one of the ten most stupid things I have ever read. Libertarians must be stopped. So funds should be spared to destroy their insane crusade.

42 posted on 11/17/2002 10:35:46 PM PST by montag813
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Libertarians are Enemies of GOP -- With Good Reason -- says Sci-Fi Author

Well, you can tell whoever came up with this title isn't much into SF.
43 posted on 11/17/2002 10:44:34 PM PST by aruanan
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It isn'tust liberatrians that are upset with the RINO RNC and the GOP washington establishment. While I will never vote libertarian, as long as the RINOS in washington continue to infringe on our 2nd amendment rights, increase taxes, vote for pork projects, expand the federal government, do nothing about illegal immigration, promote infanticide, cave in on abolishing the IRS and education department, they will find independent conservatives such as myself remaining home and not offsetting the libertarian vote.

The GOP has only itself to blame, bullsh*ting to everyone how conservative they are and voting like democrats or caving in to them.

44 posted on 11/17/2002 11:02:30 PM PST by Cacique
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There is a huge difference between libertarianism and the Libertarian Party.

Small-"l" libertarians hold certain priniciples and generally vote republican.

Libertarian candidates (the Libertarian Party) tend to be pro-drug, pro-porn nutcases whose idea of freedom is getting high and laid.

But there is a spectrum with druggie anarchists at one end and social/economic conservatives at the other end. The Libertarian Party hierarchy tends to favor the former.

57 posted on 11/18/2002 8:05:12 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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much to the chagrin of the statist clods, the libertarians are more relevant than ever.

the establishment types weep openly.
61 posted on 11/18/2002 8:30:00 AM PST by galt-jw
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"He pointed to other races that year where LP candidates had won more votes than the margin between the winning Democrat and the losing Republican, and chastised libertarians for failing to recognize and act for the "higher good" of helping Republicans defeat Democrats, as if libertarians were somehow the second-string team in the fight for freedom."

I wouldn't even go so far as to call Libertarians a "second string team." A red shirt squad would be more appropriate. Afterall, the Libertarians are pretty lame!

65 posted on 11/18/2002 10:18:11 AM PST by Destructor
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We've heard it all before, anyway. I remember one election in which Patrick J. Buchanan, former Nixon speechwriter and mortal enemy of free trade, open immigration, and a woman's right to sovereignty over her own body,

I won't read any further. Some "Zero Aggression Policy" the losertarians have when violently invading a pre-birth child's home, pureeing the child, and sucking its remains into a sink somehow fits into their policy against initiating aggression.

In the past two years I've gone from almost joining the Libertarian Party to loathing them. And I know I'm not the only one.

70 posted on 11/18/2002 12:12:00 PM PST by Spiff
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The biggest flaw in the Libertarian party is its
soft spot for kooks and political know-nothings.

About 10 years ago, I attended a Libertarian Party
meeting because I liked the high level picture that
they sell, a party for freedom and individual
responsibility.

If they stuck to the central political importance
of the message and downplayed the peripheral issues
they'd be a lot more successful. Instead, the
party platform included issues like allowing the
establishment of self-governing colonies in outer
space - not a big vote-getter anywhere.

They also need to recognize that it is not always
clear what the consequences for freedom of particular
political policies are. For example, Libertarians usually
support completely free movement of people and products
across borders, but although this is a fine ultimate
ideal, the consequences for freedom from adopting such
a policy right now would be catastrophic in addition
to being a sure-fire way to keep yourself from getting
elected.
73 posted on 11/18/2002 12:17:04 PM PST by wotan
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I like to stick up for Libertarians...after all, the Founding Fathers were libertarian in most aspects. However, I cannot defend the author's argument here.

Libertarians are not the enemy of conservatives, as they agree with ther conservative position exactly half of the time. It's just that they agree with the left half the time too.

92 posted on 11/18/2002 3:31:43 PM PST by copycat
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"Why should anyone vote for candidates from a political party that not only failed to protect this nation from the attack on the World Trade Center (whose foreign policy, along with that of the Democrats, made the attack inevitable, and whose domestic policies made it easy) but cynically use it as an excuse to obliterate every remaining trace of the Founding Fathers' America?"

BULL$HIT!!!

93 posted on 11/18/2002 3:40:52 PM PST by txoilman
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Excellent article. It's how I feel.
95 posted on 11/18/2002 3:45:00 PM PST by fish70
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My number one reason why libertarians suck

124 posted on 11/20/2002 10:22:32 AM PST by finnman69
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