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1 posted on 11/14/2002 4:20:48 PM PST by Siobhan
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FYI ping. Important.
2 posted on 11/14/2002 4:21:58 PM PST by Siobhan
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FYI. Important.
3 posted on 11/14/2002 4:23:26 PM PST by Siobhan
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Didn't turn up on Search? This was posted already.
4 posted on 11/14/2002 4:24:39 PM PST by RightWhale
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The article sounds like total bullsh*t.
8 posted on 11/14/2002 4:29:50 PM PST by paolop
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Number one ... if they really had several nukes already here ... they would have used them. Why do a 911 airplane attack when you have a nuc? That alone pegs the Bravo Sierra meter all the way off the scale. So, I do not believe this report or this man's bravado.

I do believe they are trying to get them though and if they do, they will do just what he says.

Number two ... these people do not understand us. If they are successful in accomplishing what he decribes ... very soon thereafter the Muslim world (and anyone standing in the way) will cease to exist.

11 posted on 11/14/2002 4:32:16 PM PST by Jeff Head
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PING
18 posted on 11/14/2002 4:49:35 PM PST by Smogger
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These ragheads are really pushing it now. Don't they understand that even the threat of such actions could possibly cause our nuclear forces to be unleashed wholesale against the middle east, and wherever Muslims are? Given the recent sentiments expressed by President Putin regarding the camelhumpers, I think that Russia would be more than happy to donate a few current nukes to the cause of eliminating the Muslims as well.

So what's it going to be sand fleas? Go ahead, take your shot - it will mean the extinction of your people, down to the last woman and child. From that day forward, anyone who prays to your psychotic illiterate Mohammed will be summarily executed when discovered. That is something you can count on - we haven't come this far to be taken down by some idiots like you. Your plan resembles something that an alien would come up with after only watching our TV programs on the way here. You know NOTHING about us. We're the chlorine in your gene pool, f_ckhead.

20 posted on 11/14/2002 4:53:54 PM PST by 11B3
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So far, the response of the US to the WTC destruction has been very tepid and measured; true, we removed the government of Afghanistan, we are involved in mopping up operations in the Phillipines, Indonesia, and in Africa. Yet, we have used only modest means to do this. A nuke detonated in an American city would see "the gloves come off" of the US military establishment. No damn raghead wants to see this, or he is seriously deluded about the might or resolve of this country.
21 posted on 11/14/2002 4:54:58 PM PST by 45Auto
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it's time!
26 posted on 11/14/2002 5:03:58 PM PST by The Mayor
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bump
29 posted on 11/14/2002 5:12:08 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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For this reason, America must be destroyed, and al-Usuquf insists that "aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and spy satellites will be worthless in the next war".

Here's a tip. If anyone wants to make a bet on the winner of the next war, take the team that has the worthless aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and spy satellites.

These chest beaters are a hoot. Let's assume, arguendo, that one of these terror groups managed to detonate a nuke in a western city. It would inaugurate the Third World War, for sure. China, Russia, Western Europe, Australia, most of Central and South America, India, Canada and the USA would align in a completely mobilized campaign that would essentially destroy Islamic regimes worldwide and occupy whole nations for generations.

Clearly in such a circumstance the wartime economy would shift the allocation of resources and imperatives. Does any serious person believe that contingency planning and response scenarios have not considered such an event? Does any serious person believe that the civilized west would be defeated by radical Islam?

It is inevitable that a rogue nation or terror group will deploy a WMD of some kind on an unsuspecting population. The thing to be feared after such an event is not that the west would be defeated by Islamic fundamentalists, but that the hysterical, revenge-driven environment would invariably lead to the emergence of an ultra-powerful central government (or leader) who would be given carte blanche to do whatever. How you put that kind of an animal back in its cage after the elimination of the external threat is very troubling.

30 posted on 11/14/2002 5:29:24 PM PST by Zebra
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Very detailed interview, which is somewhat disturbing.
39 posted on 11/14/2002 6:27:58 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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this guy is smoking crack...................
41 posted on 11/14/2002 6:28:36 PM PST by angcat
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,,, I'd imagine US nuclear strike capacity will be maintained by subs and the list of countries on the hot list, should this sort of event occur, would all get calling cards to counter. Disaster by remote control works well. The cold war threats proved that.
45 posted on 11/14/2002 6:41:32 PM PST by shaggy eel
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I did a google search and looked up on the Fas.org military links and found nothing about a t3 icbm. The rd-107 is a rocket engine used for Soyuz boosters.
47 posted on 11/14/2002 6:53:06 PM PST by finnman69
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bump again.
48 posted on 11/14/2002 6:54:39 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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Ping! Grain of salt or *gulp*?
52 posted on 11/14/2002 7:11:31 PM PST by shezza
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Per about.com ( http://antivirus.about.com/library/hoaxes/bljazeera.htm ), the "second tape" is a hoax...
57 posted on 11/14/2002 7:23:35 PM PST by mhking
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Many countries sponsor us, and also some very rich people." And not all of these are Arab countries. "Some European countries as well are also interested in the fall of the US." As to the "rich people", they are "people who are also tired of seeing the US bleeding the rest of the world."

More chest thumping. Period. Rich arabs and a few krauts and frogs thrown in for good measure maybe. But that's about it.

Another indication of chest thumping...why haven't they used their "hidden" nukes then? Even a West Point plebe knows you strike when you have the tactical advantage of surprise. September 11th was all they had. Besides, one nuke goes of in this country and you can bet we reserve the right to defend ourselves. I doubt they'll ever get a chance to use the other six he's dreaming about.

61 posted on 11/14/2002 7:28:56 PM PST by ProudEagle
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Al-Usuquf does not fear an American military response. "Even if five or 10 cities are chosen at random to be destroyed, it will still be a small price to pay.

You think too small my friend. How about 5 or 10 Muslim countries - to hell with mere cities. How about if all your Islamic buddies worldwide are exterminated? A "small price" I guess.

The problem is that the economic despair will be so great that even if it saves [money] by not using weapons, American liquidity will be near zero, and the US will make more money selling a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier to Turkey or Italy for $5 billion, because they will urgently need to recapitalize.

What, he thinks he can start setting off nukes in the US & we'll still play nicey-nice? There's no need to buy & sell to raise needed capital & raw materials. A much easier way is to occupy all their sand-flea infested countries and milk them for everything we can get. Immediate control & ownership of most of the world's oil supplies by the U.S. will generate all the revenue we need. No need to sell anything. We'll need all of our military hardware to continue the worldwide extermination of Islamicists while we take over their rat-hole countries and get rich on the spoils of war.

But it will be too late. Moreover, what will remain of an American soldier's morale to fight knowing that his whole family died and his country ceased to exist? To fight for what?"

This is a really stupid comment. Easy answer - to fight for the extermination of all murderous Islamic pukes and their evil spawn worldwide. Both revenge and self-preservation are powerful motivators. Particularly when elimination of the source of the problem is easily achievable because you have the might & means to carry it out.

69 posted on 11/14/2002 8:30:07 PM PST by MCH
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