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Please write these Democrat captives and complain!!!!! They play with a loaded deck. Tell them to hire a balanced staff so they can evaluate issues FAIRLY!!!
1 posted on 11/10/2002 2:54:48 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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2 posted on 11/10/2002 2:57:06 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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3 posted on 11/10/2002 2:57:54 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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"Can I come out of the woodshed now?"

No.
4 posted on 11/10/2002 2:58:09 PM PST by Cicero
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Yep. What we need to do is require that every media outlet and university hire conservatives on an affirmative action basis, reflective of the numbers in the general population.
5 posted on 11/10/2002 3:03:03 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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What's more, we expect disagreements and welcome dissent. Every day, our letters space is larger than the editorial column.

Dear KC Star,

Thank you for your explanation, very revealing/hidden/etc.....

So, you do understand and accept the fact that you constantly lose subscribers and advertising. Very big of you and hope unemployment will not last too long when cut backs at the Star continue.

6 posted on 11/10/2002 3:03:22 PM PST by Mark
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Please write these Democrat captives and complain!!!!! They play with a loaded deck. Tell them to hire a balanced staff so they can evaluate issues FAIRLY!!!

Like a lot of people, I don't read editorials too often. But they are a good thing because they honestly reveal the biases. Some newspapers do try to split their endorsements between the parties fairly evenly by endorsing all liberal Republicans. Better they be honest. There is nothing wrong with being an old-fashioned Republican or Democratic newspaper.

Our point should not be that they should write different editorials. It is that we disagree, for good reasons, with those they do write, but are glad they were honest enough to show the public their liberal bias.

9 posted on 11/10/2002 3:07:42 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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Each has at least 25 years in "journalism" [quotation marks mine]

Now there's a qualification for ya!

12 posted on 11/10/2002 3:10:54 PM PST by clintonh8r
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Can you ping the media bias group please? Thanks.
14 posted on 11/10/2002 3:16:05 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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I just wrote to Miriam Pepper and asked her for the registration breakdown of the members of her editorial board. I asked her to respond to me whether she thought this was, or was not, relevant information (from public records) that readers should have in evaluating her paper's endorsements.

I mentioned to her that I would like to have a reply. I said that replpy or not, I would discuss this issue on my national radio broadcast in the mornings on "American Breakfast." I will be interested to see whether she does reply, and what she said.

Congressman Billybob

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16 posted on 11/10/2002 3:20:04 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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What's the problem? I may disagree with the newspaper's conclusions, and their practice of not including party affiliations in endorsements, but what's your complaint other than the outcome? If that's their conclusion, then so be it ... an unbiased editorial is nothing more than a wishy-washy one. They may be a bunch of flaming libs, but I respect their willingness to make their choices and reveal how they reached them.

I'll complain vehemently when a newspaper (or any other media outlet) is biased in its coverage of the news. When it comes to editorializing, though, a paper should have strong positions, backed up by facts. If you don't like the KC Star, then don't read it, but don't demand that their staff change its opinions to avoid offending some readers. They are entitled to their judgements, and you are entitled to stop giving them money if you find those judgements so offensive.

19 posted on 11/10/2002 3:23:20 PM PST by Polonius
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"Arthur Brisbane, Publisher"....is he a scion of the following?

Albert Brisbane (1809-1890), American social theorist, founded experimental communes in New Jersey.

Arthur Brisbane,(1864-1936), son of the above, American writer and Hearst editor, known as the "master of the big, blaring headline and of the atrocity story".

If so, and it looks so, creepiness seems to run in the family. Probably all three are still voting.

Leni

21 posted on 11/10/2002 3:25:06 PM PST by MinuteGal
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For the record, here are the editorial board members: Miriam Pepper, editorial page editor; Stephen Winn, deputy editorial page editor; Laura Scott, assistant editorial page editor; Charles Coulter, op-ed editor; Lee Judge, political cartoonist; Lewis W. Diuguid, vice president/community resources; editorial writers/columnists Yael T. Abouhalkah, E. Thomas McClanahan and Bill Tammeus; and publisher Arthur S. Brisbane.

Pepper's statement to the contrary, I'd like to see them fully admit up front the party registrations of each of these individuals.

22 posted on 11/10/2002 3:25:59 PM PST by Timesink
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Typical RAT lapdog whining non-answer to the bias accusation. I long ago grew tired of the RAT lapdog media insisting they are fair and unbiased. Why can't they just admit what everybody with a brain stem already knows; they're all leftist activists.
23 posted on 11/10/2002 3:28:18 PM PST by ozzymandus
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Rat,

Actually, I work for the Star (but not on the editorial board).

After seeing the endorsements on Monday, I had planned on writing a letter. I just hadn't gotten around to it yet.

After reading pepper's latest missive, I feel the need to fast-track the letter.

I'm gratified to see that the Star will be adding party designations on its next endorsement roundup. That should prove an interesting sight next time.

In the meantime, Pepper never really addresses the reasons why the Star ended up endorsing nearly all Democrats - 35 out of 46 national and state races, with all of the Republicans endorsed either running unopposed or facing token opposition in GOP-heavy state legislature seats - on its slate. Or what the implications might be for a newspaper trying to represent and speak to a politically split metropolitan area.

I am sure that the endorsement process unfolds as Pepper says it does. It's just "majority vote." Yet votes will always unfold in lopsided fashion like this when they end up hiring liberal after liberal for key editorial posts.

And like most newsrooms, they seem to have no clue that there might be anything wrong with that.

27 posted on 11/10/2002 3:37:29 PM PST by The Iguana
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We endorse candidates because most readers have neither the time nor the access to candidates that we do

Read that We will tell you what you think

30 posted on 11/10/2002 3:46:56 PM PST by pfflier
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Hell, the Nashville Tennessean endorsed all Democrats, even some who ran unopposed.

Nobody accused them of bias, they just bought more yellow dogfood.

32 posted on 11/10/2002 3:52:30 PM PST by Old Professer
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Good post
33 posted on 11/10/2002 3:54:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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How many democrats and how many republicans did they endorse this year?
35 posted on 11/10/2002 3:58:15 PM PST by jern
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(The full editorials that preceded the summary all included parties, so we had no "hidden" agenda.)

Uh huh...you identified the candidates' parties in the editorials, so you didn't feel like you had to when making endorsements. After all, would people vote according to your summary when they hadn't read all the dozens of editorials, and gotten that vital information already?

According to you, you darn well hope so.

Nice try.

37 posted on 11/10/2002 4:12:49 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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wow 25 years...

Or that only one party ever rounded up US Citizens and put them in concetration camps.

And did so soley on the basis of their race!!!
46 posted on 11/10/2002 5:33:14 PM PST by Kay Soze
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