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I think this plan will work. It seemed to on November 5th 2002. What do you think?
1 posted on 11/08/2002 9:00:47 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
Shep just about "out-FOXed" himself just the other night with this faux pas...

http://download.consumptionjunction.com/multimedia/cj_13954.wmv

2 posted on 11/08/2002 9:03:20 PM PST by ErnBatavia
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Sounds good to me! The other channels can advertise on Fox News all they want, it gives revenue to my favorite channel. Admittedly, they advertise because it works. I changed channels the other nite when the CBS commercial on Fox reminded me the CMA Awards were coming on.
3 posted on 11/08/2002 9:05:32 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: RandallFlagg
As shown on 11/08/02 on the FNC with Sheppard Smith......

We Report......You Laugh Hysterically

4 posted on 11/08/2002 9:06:03 PM PST by hole_n_one
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Cable and satellite companies often buy commercial time from networks and can then resell them to local affiliates for advertising on channels other than their native slot. I'm not sure how much control the network has over the spots.

If you never watch CBS, how will people ever hear about new CBS shows? So networks often buy these slots from the providers to spread the word.

Shows how desparate CNN and MSNBC are... you never see a Foxnews Channel spot run on CNN. LOL.

5 posted on 11/08/2002 9:06:44 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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It is likely that they are just buying local commerical time on the stations that have a substantial audience... like FOX NEWS!

This sort of thing happens all the time in Dallas. Sometimes I think I see more of Paula Zahn on "Fox and Friends" than I see of Lauren Green.... mmmmm... sorry, I distracted myself.
6 posted on 11/08/2002 9:06:48 PM PST by nhoward14
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The more people see how deperate they are to attract people back to their stations without changing the structural reason why people switched away from them the better it is for us. Until they drop all the liberal commenators and liberal storylines nothing will change. Either way, we win.
10 posted on 11/08/2002 9:09:29 PM PST by John Lenin
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This is Probably Off-Topic, but I was justing over at DU(Just for Fun), and I Was Shocked at How Many of Those Poor, Delusional Idiots Are Convinced that The Media, All the Media, Are Conservative Lapdogs!! They Believe the Republicans Get Away with Anything, and the Media Never Questions Us!! Gimme a BREAK!!
12 posted on 11/08/2002 9:18:50 PM PST by BetterPutSomeIceOnThat
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CNN and Ted Turner did not realize what hit them upside the head when Fox News Channel rolled out several years ago and the Dimwit Dems didn't see it coming when they were hit upside the head on November 5th. Both are self-destructing and soon will be extinct.
15 posted on 11/08/2002 9:24:13 PM PST by healey22
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Saw an ad for Connie Chung on FNC the other night. The VU meter dropped considerably during this ad, making it necessary to turn up the volume of you wanted to hear it well. Our local carpet seller had a louder ad.
19 posted on 11/08/2002 9:31:22 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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O'Reilly advertizes on either Nickelodeon (afternoon programming) or Cartoon Network. I see a lot of commercials for him while my kids are watching tv.

If "news" viewers are watching FOX, then that is where you go to advertise your news. Kinda like toy manufacturers advertizing during children's programming. Makes sense to me and clearly an admission of their inferiority :)

20 posted on 11/08/2002 9:31:30 PM PST by Dianna
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It sounds like Fox is letting the liberal, elite, left-wing media pay for their more popular network. I think it is funny. I think they know that we're not going to switch because of some commercial, we're smarter than that.
23 posted on 11/08/2002 9:54:08 PM PST by tiki
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The self-immolation by the liberal talking heads has been hugely gratifying. The Sunday morning shows will be an absolute hoot.
On the other hand George Mephistopheles, er, Stephanopolis seemed to actually gain strength from the Democrat meltdown. Best keep a wary eye on that guy. The cornered 'rat is the most dangerous.
27 posted on 11/08/2002 10:15:27 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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What could be better---Kick their A$$es in the ratings and take their money too.
30 posted on 11/08/2002 10:32:38 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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FWIW, the local CBS affiliate here in Atlanta is also advertizing their local news on FNC. I think they're just trying to attract news junkies to their brand of local news, knowing there is no local news on FNC.

While politically I think Garrison Keillor is an idiot, he has made *the* definitive statement on TV news:

"If you watch TV news you know less about the world than if you drank gin straight from the bottle."

Of course, when he made his statement, ABCNNBCBS was the only choice, and you couldn't surf FreeRepublic on your laptop while watching/listening to FNC.

34 posted on 11/09/2002 4:26:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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"The Conservative agenda...has been allowed to be seen by the public"

How terrible!! How can this be stopped??

36 posted on 11/09/2002 4:33:15 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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what you are seeing are ROS* cable and satellite ads that can be bought by anyone.

The networks are in cardiac arrest becasue of Fox news and are trying everything but telling the truth to gain back their old viewers......

fortunately, they will not just tell the truth, so fox will never be in trouble.

*Run Of System

38 posted on 11/09/2002 4:57:54 AM PST by The Wizard
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In my area they show these commercials on all FOX channels.
I guess since it is cable they can do it. I have often wondered how legal it is though to cut the commercials out that are paid for nationaly. Also I have one FOX channel that keeps going off the air and I wonder if this is something intended by the cable providers. It is the only channel I have a major problem with. I am about ready to switch to a satellite system and would have already if it didnt require a receiver for every television.
39 posted on 11/09/2002 6:09:24 AM PST by gunnedah
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Going back to your suggestion of an air war. I think in late spring or early summer some conservative groups, (not the Republican Party), should start running touchy feely dialogue ads on radio and T.V. Get the NRA, Pro-Life groups, Club for growth, and an assortment of pro freedom groups involved.

Each one would make a couple of different ads promoting their agenda. For instance, a Pro-Life group could run an ad similar to this: They call us extremists simply because they disagree that innoncent life should be protected. We feel that there are other choices which don't involve killing unborn children. People could practice abstinance or use birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancy. If a woman does get pregnant, she has other choices besides ending that growing life. She could marry the father, she could raise the child herself, she could allow a loving couple to adopt and raise that baby. See, we a re not anti-choice, we are pro-Life.

Maybe a group supporting tax cuts could do this. They say we are greedy because we want tax cuts. We refer to ourselves as pro freedom and self sufficient. Every time you pay a tax the government takes a little bit of your freedom to use your hard earned money as you want to. Bureuacrats many times use your money for things you don't want or need or would never even consider as a wise use of your effort. Why is it the business of any bureuacrat to know how much money you make or what your mortgage payment is? Remember it is not greedy to want to keep the money you earn. It is selfish of politicians to want to spend your money so they can buy votes to get re-elected. Then list a bunch of the ridiculous things that taxes go for.

I think a soft sell for a year and a half on a variety of issues could take these issues off the table for the dems. Then they'll even have less to talk about come 2004.

The time to prepare people for the next election is now.

40 posted on 11/09/2002 11:49:07 AM PST by Betty Jane
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FNC did an interesting clip about the declining amount of coverage. In this election it went to 2.5 minutes of coverage by the networks. For them it was ok because the candidates were forced to buy commercials. (FNC said it was 8 minutes of coverage in a previous off year election)

If the reporters sense a swell, they will simply NOT cover the election. (see VNS and the republican tsunami denial) Campaing finance reform works in their favor of socrched earth silence.
45 posted on 11/10/2002 4:47:41 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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