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As far as your spiel on tanks is concerned, the military not only disagrees with you, but villigently so. When you drive a tank for the Military, they expect you to know it inside and out. How it functions, how to repair it, how to operate every station, etc. It's because it's an expensive piece of equipment that they depend on. It's called thoroughly training so that if something goes wrong, they have a clue what to do about it.

As regards a security issue, if an admin doesn't know what a worm is, how it attacks a network, and how to defend against it, there isn't much likelihood your network will be secure. If they don't understand the os, there isn't much hope they'll understand why cleaning up temp files and defragging the drive might affect system performance and stop memory errors. In short, if your admin knows nothing, your network will run like your admin knows nothing. Just like if you have walmart rebuild your transmission, it will run like walmart rebuilt it.

It's amazing the lengths that some of you hacks will go to to minimize the impact of such things. And most admins I've met wouldn't be allowed anywhere near my home pc. If you're going to work on my machine, you have to first have a clue what you're doing. Just because an ms exam study tells them what buttons to push doesn't mean they know what a trace route is or how to tell if someone is snooping on the system. Then again, most MS admins wouldn't know if the company were running something like PCanywhere Under the os along with a keystroke capture.

I'm sure you'd let little Johnny drive the tank if it had MS written on it. You have more confidence in MS than in common sense.

I believe that would be the tank commander not the driver, I'll poke around.

And here you go jockeying for position. Now you're bringing up security. Of course your "point" is still lacking. Here's everything you need to know about a worm: where to get and how to install the patch that stops it. Nice redefine on "understand", here's everything you need to "know" about Windows to defrag the drives and dump the temp folder: how to run system agent to schedule tasks. Luckily for most sysagent defaults to starting and being on the task tray with most of these kinds of tasks pre-included and configured to run during obscene hours of the morning. I've never said the admin should know "nothing" I said the admin doesn't need to know the nitty gritty details of how the OS interfaces with the hardware.

Gosh you really don't know what in the hell you're talking about. The MSCE exam for NT includes in depth questions on how the various network protocols work and how to configure them and what the advantages and disadvantages of each are. That's good admin. What they don't get into is how the OS talks to the protocol because nobody cares. I'm betting you couldn't come close to passing an MSCE, it's a nasty exam.

You are suck a typical ABMer. You clearly don't know a damn thing about MS or Windows but you'll blather on and on about how "ignorant" MS users are, you probably couldn't even format a floppy under Windows.

Now if you want to turn this into serious debate I welcome it. But if you're just going to fluff your own ego and inslut people you know absolutely nothing about, go back to slash-dot.