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Well, He Didn't Drool . . . Walter Mondale stumbles through his Monday morning "conversation"
The Daily Standard ^ | 11-4-02 | by Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 11/04/2002 12:37:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

MINNESOTANS WORRIED about an anthrax attack at the Mall of America can relax. Walter Mondale is on the case.

"Don't worry about me and terrorism," he declared in the Minnesota Senate debate Monday morning. "I'm opposed to it."

There were plenty of such Mondale moments over the course of the hour-long "conversation" that may help determine the result of what the former vice president twice called "the most fateful election in modern history."

Some examples: When Norm Coleman boasted that he had prosecuted white-collar criminals, Mondale responded: "You may have prosecuted some people, we all have." Mondale laid out his "issues of the future"--education, social security, and "that dreadful tax cut"--conspicuously omitting anything having to do with national security. When Coleman, wisely, raised terrorism and homeland security, Mondale sounded like an angry grandpa, frustrated that younger generations don't remember his accomplishments. "I've worked on security, defense, international security, and the rest all of my life," he shot back. When Coleman worried about the insolvency of social security and said he was open to some flexibility in government-mandated retirement benefits, Mondale wouldn't hear any of it. "That idea is wrong," he declared. And so it went.

But for Republicans seeking a "knock-out performance" by Coleman, the results were mixed. Although Mondale's answers were filled with stumbles and non sequiturs, he managed a couple witty ripostes to Coleman charges and passed--barely--the drool test.

Coleman was measured and respectful of Jimmy Carter's number two, perhaps concerned about attacking the elder statesman of Minnesota politics. (Indeed, the Coleman campaign sent out a release immediately following the debate decrying Mondale's "shrill attacks" and touting Coleman's "positive, forward-looking answers.") Going negative this late has its risks, without question. But with Mondale so obviously flappable, and with such a wealth of material--did I mentioned Mondale was Jimmy Carter's number two?--Coleman might have been a bit sharper in drawing the contrast. Surely he could have worked in one mention of "malaise," no?

But here's the bright spot for Coleman and the Republicans. If Mondale in some sense exceeded expectations by merely surviving the affair, he did little to live up to his reputation--touted everywhere in the Minnesota press these days--as a legend.

Consider this "news" article by reporter Tom Webb from the front page of Saturday's St. Paul Pioneer Press:

"As Republican Norm Coleman is discovering, it's tough to run against a political legend. In Minnesota's race for the U.S. Senate, Coleman talks about helping to bring hockey to St. Paul. Democrat Walter Mondale talks of helping bring peace between Israel and Egypt. Coleman talks about having a friend he can call in the White House. Mondale talks about serving in the White House as vice president of the United States. And Coleman talks about his commitment to women and minorities. Mondale cites his history-making work for civil rights and empowering women.

"At a campaign stop Friday in Mankato, teacher Gwen Walz, 35, was among many who regarded Mondale not as a mere politician but as an icon. 'You had such an incredible influence on me, and women of my age, by your courageous and visionary decision in the 1984 election,' which put a woman on the presidential ticket, she told Mondale, adding, 'I am so honored to be in the same room as you.'"

And on and on it goes. If the article were oral sex, it could rightly be considered obscene by just about any standard of decency. Finally, mercifully, the "news" story ends:

"While Coleman warns voters about the threat from North Korea, Mondale gives a lesson on the geopolitics of East Asia, from his days as U.S. ambassador to Japan. Coleman speaks often of the 18,000 jobs he helped to create in St. Paul during his successful tenure as mayor. Mondale hasn't claimed a role in any of the hundreds of thousands of Minnesota jobs created during his terms as U.S. senator, but he did note that he helped generate private-sector jobs as he served on the boards of several blue-chip Minnesota firms. On Friday, he resigned from all of those posts, as well as from his law firm.

"Whoever wins the election Tuesday, Mondale's place in the pantheon is secure. The next U.S. senator from Minnesota will go to work each day at the U.S. Capitol, passing by a marble bust of Walter F. Mondale."

For Minnesotans who only read Webb's article, Mondale may be a legend. But those who saw Monday's debate will be left asking, "Where's the Beef?"

Stephen F. Hayes is staff writer at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; debate; drool; mondale; senate

Stephen F. Hayes, staff writer
1 posted on 11/04/2002 12:37:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
no wor4d about his running mate - Geraldine Ferraro?
2 posted on 11/04/2002 12:42:05 PM PST by camle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And did Mondale ever claim any credit for the millions of jobs lost during the godawful economy he and his pal Jimmah bequeathed to America? I got out of college in 1980, after four years of their blithering idiocy, with a fistful of honors and a magna cum laude degree, and had to take the only job I could find: as a minimum wage clerk in a record store. So pardon me if I don't get choked up at the idea of Walter Mondale's greatness, or start crying at his "bravery" for vowing to jack our taxes to the sky as we were coming out of a recession, or stand in awe of the foreign policy acumen that gave us the Iranian hostage crisis and let the ayatollahs take over Iran and begin the incubation of the current murderous Islamic death cults.

The only thing historic about Mondale is that he will forever be part of one of the greatest failures in American presidential history, and the only thing larger than life about him is his towering incompetence. If all Minnesotans are as dumb as the guy quoted in this article, then the state is Woebegone indeed.

3 posted on 11/04/2002 1:42:45 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Quote by Walter Mondale at a Demorat Convention

"Dan Rostenkowski, standing next to the candidate in front of the cameras and the cheering crowd at the convention after the fateful speech, whispered to Mondale, "You've got a lot of balls, pal."

According to Rostenkowski, Mondale whispered back, "Look at 'em, we're going to tax their ass off."

Source: -- ("Showdown At Gucci Gulch," Jeffrey H. Birnbaum And Alan S. Murray, page 35)

(Daniel David Rostenkowski) (rs´´tnkou´sk) (KEY) , 1928­, U.S. congressman, b. Chicago. A Democrat, he was first elected as a U.S. representative from Illinois in 1958. Rostenkowski became chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee in 1981. He helped secure (1983) legislation to keep the social security system solvent and played a major role in the passage (1986) of a new federal tax code. In 1994, Rostenkowski was indicted on corruption charges and stepped down as Ways and Means chairman; he lost his House seat in the Congressional elections later that year. He pleaded guilty to mail fraud in 1996, and was fined and served (1996­97) a 17-month sentence. He has subsequently worked as a political consultant and commentator. Rostenkowski was pardoned by President Clinton in 2000. See biography by R. E. Cohen (1999.

Also see: STERLING INTERNATIONAL SPEAKERS BUREAU - Jeffrey Birnbaum - FORTUNE Magazine - Washington Bureau Chief

4 posted on 11/04/2002 2:30:42 PM PST by NWO Slave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"While Coleman warns voters about the threat from North Korea, Mondale gives a lesson on the geopolitics of East Asia, from his days as U.S. ambassador to Japan.

This is why, although Coleman is a man of honor, I found myself yelling at the screen much of the time.

Fritz mentioned how the most important thign for housing was "low interest rates", the silence was deafening while I waited in vain for Coleman to say "You talk about low interest rates, Mr, Mondale, yet you presided over 20% mortage rates and President Bush now presides ove the lowest rates in history. Is that the kind of thing you mean when you describe the 'differences between us'"?

Then Fritz said the U.S. was "stronger with the U.N. than alone". I waited again for Coleman NOT to say "Did you consider your support of the nuclear freeze a position of strength when faced with Soviet nuclear proliferation?"

The opportunities were abundant to bury Mondale (with a smile) and cause him to exhibit his trademark flustered confusion, but Coleman did not take the bait. I wish he had. Then we could write this one off. However Mondale far exceeded expectations, and Coleman did not. Thus it will be a nail-biter Tuesday night.

5 posted on 11/04/2002 2:39:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
I agree, there were many opportunities. The problem is the namby-pamby independent voters and soccer moms watching the debate want someone 'nice', not a pitbull that would embarass an old man. Coleman came away from the debate in a very strong position.
6 posted on 11/04/2002 2:48:31 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing
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To: The Vast Right Wing
Coleman came away from the debate in a very strong position

I hope you are right. There will be 50 hard-drinking people at my apartment on Tuesday night hoping for a Coleman (and GOP) victory celebration!

7 posted on 11/04/2002 2:49:51 PM PST by montag813
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To: The Vast Right Wing
I agree. It took real discipline, almost a certain kind of genius, for Coleman to remain polite, and avoid the trap of hitting what might have appeared to be some softballs out of the park. By being pleasant, yet substantive, he won the debate and probably the election.

Yes, he had opportunities to score more technical debating points, but that could have come at a high price vis a vis the crucial moderate swing voters.
8 posted on 11/04/2002 3:31:17 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Don't worry about me and terrorism," he declared in the Minnesota Senate debate Monday morning. "I'm opposed to it."

Man talk about bold! Fritz campaigning on the edge.

9 posted on 11/04/2002 9:15:59 PM PST by Valin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Russians should've just piped in a Mondale speech. Would've been a much safer soporific.
10 posted on 11/04/2002 10:39:11 PM PST by Tauzero
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