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The Republicans are Dying in All Attempts
Me, Myself and I | 10/31/2002 | Vidalia

Posted on 10/31/2002 8:36:50 PM PST by Vidalia

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To: Vidalia
You miss my point.

You offer no solutions. Only a fire and brimstone sermon that YOU know what is good for everyone and BY GOD you'll be sorry if you don't listen to me. You are attempting to use 'fear' re: what you see is coming, in much the same way the Dems use 'fear' on many different groups (as you so rightly point out).

You then go on to say that you are protected...read prepared?...and no one should bitch or cry because they will get what is coming to them.

But I have YET to see what YOUR solutions are. I could assume that this is some type of 'musket' militia mentality at work here, but I am suspending judgement until you elaborate.
41 posted on 10/31/2002 10:05:42 PM PST by justshe
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To: Vidalia
Although disasterous, the "marxist" vision is clearer than the Conservative, which is why it is easier to rally behind the Liberals. Who can argue with the fact that everyone wants "justice" and "peace"?

The right needs to co-opt the terms of action to get anywhere.

42 posted on 10/31/2002 10:10:30 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: manfromlamancha
Antonio Gramsci. The theoritician responsible for our present situation.
43 posted on 10/31/2002 10:16:18 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
Gramsci...The destroyer of nations
44 posted on 10/31/2002 10:26:49 PM PST by manfromlamancha
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To: Dec31,1999
The right needs to co-opt the terms of action to get anywhere.

An interesting dilemma-- The left needs to co-opt language in order to justify the unjustifiable. Wholesale murder of the unborn is called "choice", morality is called "hate", opposition to affirmative action, reparations, and other discriminatory programs is called "racism".

The right has operated from the belief that the truth is the truth and needs no justification. Why co-opt language to justify that which is the truth?

45 posted on 10/31/2002 10:27:02 PM PST by freebilly
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To: justshe
Although you might get someone's attention using the type of verbal sledgehammer you employ in your posts--it is extremely doubtful you will gain their willingness to see or understand your point of view.

I don't know. I rather like the sledgehammer approach. Seems to be the only thing that gets the appropriate attention.

46 posted on 10/31/2002 10:27:29 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: justshe
It is a simple call to recognize what basic foundations of the lies that the Demo/Socialist tactical boys and girls are using, and a short call to recognize such.
47 posted on 10/31/2002 10:28:06 PM PST by Vidalia
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To: Dec31,1999
So sad, and so true...
48 posted on 10/31/2002 10:28:58 PM PST by Vidalia
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To: freebilly
An interesting dilemma-- The left needs to co-opt language in order to justify the unjustifiable. Wholesale murder of the unborn is called "choice", morality is called "hate", opposition to affirmative action, reparations, and other discriminatory programs is called "racism".

For example, the term "choice", can be co-opted to become, "choice not to conceive", or "choice not to engage in illicit sex", or something creative like that. The Liberals have noqualms about making the simplest of choices into mouthfuls of words, and then reducing them. I say we should follow this strategy. As another example, why don't we co-opt the term "choice" itself to mean the decision whether to own fireams or not? It could be termed "choice".

Think guns jump up on their own volition to kill folks? Don't buy one!

49 posted on 10/31/2002 10:36:53 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: Vidalia
My "conservative" Republican congressman has campaign billboards out stating he is "Protecting Social Security" and "Providing prescription benefits". Maybe he's just co-opting the terms of action?
50 posted on 10/31/2002 10:37:02 PM PST by NotFinished
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To: freebilly
The right has operated from the belief that the truth is the truth and needs no justification. Why co-opt language to justify that which is the truth?

How about this; the right needs to develop a little political savvy. Let me put it another way, Telling this, "newly educated," group of "boomers and their near do well spawn" the gates of hell await you baby killers, is a poor choice of words. True, perhaps, political victory, nope.

51 posted on 10/31/2002 10:43:40 PM PST by golder
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To: Dec31,1999
I say we should follow this strategy. As another example, why don't we co-opt the term "choice" itself to mean the decision whether to own fireams or not? It could be termed "choice".

LOL! Actually, not a bad idea.

52 posted on 10/31/2002 10:43:43 PM PST by freebilly
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To: NotFinished
Politicians need to say crap like that to the sheeple to get elected. We'll see what happens.

The important thing is that it all gets balanced out. True Democracies are dangerous because once the people figure out that they can vote themselves into the taxpyers' teet, it all goes down hill.

53 posted on 10/31/2002 10:45:10 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: manfromlamancha
"The dems base their ideology on subversive strategy, infiltrate and destroy...."

This is a stratagem of war (I don't think a deduction of a syllogism). A physical nature of attack, not a twisting of the mental thought process.

The latter is consistant, since that old thaing about Posse Commitatas is another legal problem for the New National Socialist Party...
54 posted on 10/31/2002 10:46:23 PM PST by Vidalia
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To: golder
How about this; the right needs to develop a little political savvy. Let me put it another way, Telling this, "newly educated," group of "boomers and their near do well spawn" the gates of hell await you baby killers, is a poor choice of words. True, perhaps, political victory, nope.

Not exactly "How to Win Friends and Influence People", is it?

Yeah, the right needs more political savvy to combat the likes of Hitlery and x42. Both of them are masters of co-opting language and spin

55 posted on 10/31/2002 10:50:54 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Vidalia
Why do they lose over and over?

Hmmm, both Houses of Congress for the first time in over 50 years (brief setback with the Senate), many, many state governorships, more state legislatures, 24 of the last 36 years of the Presidency. Why do they lose over and over?
56 posted on 10/31/2002 10:52:48 PM PST by aruanan
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To: freebilly
Yeah, the right needs more political savvy to combat the likes of Hitlery and x42. Both of them are masters of co-opting language and spin

I don't care for this, fancy footwork either. My darkest nightmare is losing all political leverage in America very soon. I honestly feel our Presidents political maneuverings are a result of the rights previous blatant stupidity.

It could be that the conservative right would rather beat the opposition into submission, rather than win their hearts and souls. Please, don't beat me up on that, it's too late, going to bed.

57 posted on 10/31/2002 11:16:52 PM PST by golder
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58 posted on 10/31/2002 11:24:29 PM PST by Timesink
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To: golder
I wasn't being sarcastic. I was agreeing with you. We do need a coherent strategy for combatting the "evil-doers" whether they are foreign or domestic.

The left has seized the advantage on the battlefield of rhetoric, and the right has been getting killed by it. The left uses words like "peace", "choice", "rights", and "the children"; and it uses images to attack conservatives like: blacks being dragged to death and old women getting pushed down flights of stairs-- anything to represent that conservatives are evil and "intolerant" and that liberalism is the balm to calm all fears of what the inhuman Republicans will do if elected.

What's the answer? I would like our Republican candidates for office to grow testicles and actually talk about the real issues in America. How many Republicans have actually discussed the incredible flood of illegal aliens coming from Mexico, Haiti, The Middle East, Somalia, etc, etc, etc? To actually take a stand on this issue is to risk being called a "racist". So Republican politicians have taken the course of appeasement. They try to be so damn nice and inoffensive that when they open their mouths they sound no different than Dems.

Would that Ronaldus Magnus return! He was the last Republican who was able to seize the minds and hearts of conservatives with humor and grace. Compared to him, today's Republican leaders look and act like spineless fools....

59 posted on 11/01/2002 3:48:31 AM PST by freebilly
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