[proxy_user]

I think they're stupid. There is a need to defend yourself, but there is no need to offer insults that might lead to tit-for-tat revenge. In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you.

I also think it's important to emphasize that we are more civilized than our enemies.

[Ronin]

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think you are wrong. The Russians know how to go for the jugular and that is what they are doing.

The Jihadis have been brainwashed into believing that death in the service of Islam is a sure ticket to paradise regardless of any actions taken before "martyrdom". That's why the 9/11 Islamofascists could spend their last night on the planet lap-dancing and swilling booze.

That being the case, they are extremely hard to deter because death is what they are actively seeking because it leads to Paradise.

If they believe that their death is NOT going to get them into Paradise because their bodies are wrapped in pig-skin than maybe they will think twice before strapping on a suicide bomb.

Isreal should have adopted this tactic long ago.

[xrp]

I think John Pershing did this to the Moro Islamic fanatics in the Philippines in the early 1900s. It calmed them the f*ck down pretty fast.

[caisson71]

The Russians understand the mentality of the murderers. Americans always try to equate everything to our standards and terms of justice. We do it all the time and when we don't get the answers we want, we ask, "why do they hate us" or "we need to learn why they hate us". Screw'em. The Russians have it right.

[Arthur McGowan]

There is no deterrent effect to killing them. Burying them in pigskin isn't objectively cruel, but exploits their crude belief that God would keep a person out of paradise for such a reason. I see nothing immoral, low, or objectionable about burying a Muslim terrorist in pigskin, or smeared with pig grease, etc.

[goodnesswins]

"important to emphasize we are more civilized than the enemy".....what? Are YOU kidding? As if they would care?

[doug from upland]

Yes, we are more civilized than our enemies. It is the Russians who are doing this.

[c-b 1]

When someone believes that they are going to heaven where 72 virgins await them for dying in what they consider a holy war, there is no reason for them to not die. Burying them in pig skin ends their fantasy about heaven, and the harem. It is an effective deterrant, it will make the terrorists think twice about being a suicide warrior.

[Bobibutu]

I respectfully disagree .. this is PsyOps just as terrorism is a form of PsyOps - finally someone has the huevos to give it a go - Go Ruskies!

We should subcontract to them all the burying that is needed in Arab lands where we may tred or here for that matter for all killed or executed Muslim criminals... hey, the Russian Mafia may be of some use here.... they are always looking for a way to turn a buck.

Taking the high road seldom keeps one alive - this is war - and it has been coming for quite a while now... even the secular Arabs knew it was a problem in the 60's and before - Belief systems are the most compelling personal criteria an individual has - I say f*ck with theirs - pull off the kidd gloves and hit below the belt.

If they are not given pause they will line up for the paradise train and blissfully smile while they push the button and take many of us with them.

I do respect your opinion - and wish the high road would work in this case... I have lived amongst them for over 10 years.. they are nuts. Nuff said.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

I think they're stupid. There is a need to defend yourself, but there is no need to offer insults that might lead to tit-for-tat revenge. In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you.

I disagree. As long as these lunatics believe in everlasting Paradise for their murderous acts. they need the insult to discourage those lunatics still alive. I applaud the Russians for use of lucid, rational force.

[dts32041]

This would not be the 1st time the russians did this.

in the seventies in Lebanon, two russian diplomats were taken hostage and killed.

The russians went after the hostage takers, killed their familes and preformed the the pig thing on the terrorists.

No russian diplomats where ever taken again.

I never did understand why they didn't do this in Afgani land, with their infrastructure they probably could get the pigs there.

[BobS]

"I also think it's important to emphasize that we are more civilized than our enemies."

Not when your enemy doesn't know what civilization is.

[Lady Heron]

In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you.

When dealing with most enemies I would agree, but not with muslims. History has shown that the only way get them to back away or become peaceful once again sadly, is to deal with them in a way that terrifies them. Prince Dracul(sp?) comes to mind as someone who succesfully repulsed muslim hords. He did it in such a way that still horrifies us today.

[Salgak]

You don't get it, do you ? This is the West Versus Islam, for the whole enchilada. You do not win a war by being "civilized". You win the war by being an utter bastard to the enemy, with your knife at his throat, and you knee in his stomach. . .

The Jihaddi's figure they're going to heaven, 72 virgins and all. The Russians just prevented that, in the Jihaddi's eyes, and those of their peers. What's next ? A pig-fat lubricant for ammo. . .

My hats off to Vladimir Putin and the Russian General Staff. And a special salute to the Speznaz teams that pulled off the operation: well done, men !

[APBaer]

"In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you."

No, you have to also deter others from doing the same thing. If they think they'll not be gettng their 72 virgins, but rather would be getting Allah's hellfire, it might be a plus.

And if they feel we are uncivilized, that's a plus too,
hell, I'm not going to ask to marry their daughters.

[river rat]

"In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you."

Usually, not always.

I take it that you've never had the experience of killing anyone that you've pursued for some time. Never had the opportunity of catching up with and getting the drop on members of a regiment that left one of your youngest Marines skinned alive and begging for death....where you would find him.

Let me assure you - sometimes, simply killing is NOT enough. The need to MORE THAN KILL is to leave a message for those that will discover or recover the corpses - and to drive deep into their nightmares - the knowledge that they are being pursued by demons that mean to kill them and worse than kill them - deprive them of any and all honor or a life after death in their belief system.

Uncivilized, perhaps.. Brutal, to a degree... Necessary, who knows.. Satisfying -- a little....

Stupid, as you believe?
Not by a long shot...Whatever it takes to destroy, disturb, demoralize and defeat the enemy that means to destroy you - is not stupid.....it is the path to survival.
Semper Fi

[ozzymandus]

The brits did this a century ago, and really intimidated the muslim fanatics. it's worth a try, and do you really think this could make the terrorists behave any worse???

[Crispy]

"I think they're stupid. There is a need to defend yourself, but there is no need to offer insults that might lead to tit-for-tat revenge. In my opinion, it's sufficient to kill the guys who are attacking you. I also think it's important to emphasize that we are more civilized than our enemies."

Too bad there are too many like you in our current government.

[MistrX]

" I also think it's important to emphasize that we are more civilized than our enemies." Who said war is civilized?

[Cloud William]

I also think it's important to emphasize that we are more civilized than our enemies.

Our enemies, it seems, don't understand or respect "civilized". This is not revenge or "tit-for-tat"; it's a deadly serious threat, communicated in a manner that is likely to get the message across. I think it's actually quite civilized to warn the enemy of his likely fate in hopes of dissuading further terrorist attacks, especially when compared with the alternative (kill 'em all).