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DC Sniper Was A Screwball In The Army
Sun Times ^
| Oct 31, '02
| Frank Main
Posted on 10/31/2002 10:09:41 AM PST by joesnuffy
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posted on
10/31/2002 10:09:41 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
To: joesnuffy
Some story. No mention of the word, "Islam".
To: joesnuffy; *JIHAD IN AMERICA; Grampa Dave; Clovis_Skeptic; ladyinred; veronica; Travis McGee; ...
To: joesnuffy
The unit was responsible for removing enemy obstacles and clearing mine fields.
Just the kind of guy you want to clear mine fields. Who made that bright decision?
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posted on
10/31/2002 10:17:25 AM PST
by
GreyWolf
To: Cyber Liberty
No mention of the word, "Islam" You don't think the name "Muhammad" says it all to 99% of Americans? I'm just glad the liberal media has stopped using "Williams" to describe the SOB.
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posted on
10/31/2002 10:20:27 AM PST
by
hunter112
To: joesnuffy
Why does this surprise anyone? Here in Alamance County, North Carolina, military recruiters have put their business cards soliciting recruits at a courthouse window where criminals pay fines!
To: joesnuffy
Thanks for posting this about this Nation of Islam Whack job.
Can you imagine some white southerner getting by with stealing a M16 or throwing a hand grenade into a tent?
Political Correctness was running amuck in the Army.
To: joesnuffy
Sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad... "He was a screwball then and a screwball now,"
So was Lee Harvey Oswald in the Marine Corps. The producer of "JAG" was in the Marines with Oswald and made a "made for TV" docudrama about his chance acquaintance with Oswald. The bottom line is; all these psycho's can be seen coming. The behavior of this minority of individuals should be noted by authorities and they should be kept in a state of open surveillance.
I would rather the "crazies" lost their civil rights and gained some mental treatment, before the country looses the 2nd. Amendment to their lunacy.
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posted on
10/31/2002 10:30:17 AM PST
by
elbucko
To: joesnuffy
Muhammad--whose stuttering grew worse under questioningA turn of speech, or did he have a stuttering problem? This might open up a whole new line of "handicapped" defense!
Seriously, if he did stutter, he would have needed an accomplice to make the phone calls, and that lovely boy, Malvo (if that's his real name) filled the bill nicely.
To: cavtrooper21
It just gets more and more interesting!
Semper Fi
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posted on
10/31/2002 10:43:39 AM PST
by
dd5339
To: joesnuffy
and left active duty in 1994 with an honorable discharge. Wasn't Muhammad court marshaled twice? Steal a gun, pull the pin on a grenade, strike an officer, court marshaled twice; I know nothing about the military, but how do you get an honorable discharge with this record?
To: GreyWolf
Just the kind of guy you want to clear mine fields. Too bad he did not do it the hard way.
To: gubamyster
...how do you get an honorable discharge with this record?Look at the date.
Think about it.
Wouldn't want to hurt his self-esteem now, would we?
< / sarcasm>
To: glc1173@aol.com
I can remember a time when a Juvenile was often given the choice: Join the armed forces, or go to jail. Often, the discipline of the military is just what they needed to get themselves sorted out and on the right path. . .
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:11:14 AM PST
by
Salgak
To: gubamyster
He wasn't court martialed- at least not from what I gathered in this article. Probably received an "Article 15" which is the commander's tool for meting out punishment. Hell, I got one while I was in. Had to do extra duty for two weeks- didn't lose any rank. It's fairly common. Court Martial is a much more serious affair and incidently, the soldier himself can request one instead of an Article 15 (if a soldier does this though- he'd better be right).
The article says he wasn't ever charged for the two incidents, so they wouldn't have been on his record. Something else to think about- you get a discharge every time you re-enlist. In other words, I re-upped once- I now have two honorable discharges. Before the Army signs you to a new contract, they release you totally from your old one. You sign some papers stating that your old contract is fullfilled, you get your honorable discharge and then you sign your re-enlistment papers and take the oath again.
Last point, if a soldier "hand carries" his personal military file to his next unit- all his misconduct will disappear before he reaches his destination. It's.... Common.
To: joesnuffy
How did this Richard Noggin get to be a Sergeant?
You want to take my gun away and give guns to people like him, no wonder we got's a problem.
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:15:27 AM PST
by
BIGZ
To: Prodigal Son
He wasn't court martialed- at least not from what I gathered in this article. Thanks for the info. Althought this article does not say he was court marshaled, I have read & heard that many other places. IIRC, once for striking an officer & once for insubordination in failure to carry out an order to police an area.
To: xzins
BTTT
To: Travis McGee
He was a bona fide nut all along. You were right.
Wonder how they kept letting back into the Guard? They must've been desperate.
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posted on
10/31/2002 6:29:14 PM PST
by
xzins
To: Salgak
I can remember a time when a Juvenile was often given the choice: Join the armed forces,
or go to jail. Often, the discipline of the military is just what they needed to get
themselves sorted out and on the right path. . .
IIRC, that is how Zell Miller found himself in the USMC.
Hopefully the full force of the training will take force some day and he'll cross the aisle...
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posted on
10/31/2002 6:35:16 PM PST
by
VOA
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