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To: joesnuffy
and left active duty in 1994 with an honorable discharge.

Wasn't Muhammad court marshaled twice? Steal a gun, pull the pin on a grenade, strike an officer, court marshaled twice; I know nothing about the military, but how do you get an honorable discharge with this record?

11 posted on 10/31/2002 10:44:37 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
...how do you get an honorable discharge with this record?

Look at the date.

Think about it.

Wouldn't want to hurt his self-esteem now, would we?

< / sarcasm>

13 posted on 10/31/2002 11:02:49 AM PST by DuncanWaring
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To: gubamyster
He wasn't court martialed- at least not from what I gathered in this article. Probably received an "Article 15" which is the commander's tool for meting out punishment. Hell, I got one while I was in. Had to do extra duty for two weeks- didn't lose any rank. It's fairly common. Court Martial is a much more serious affair and incidently, the soldier himself can request one instead of an Article 15 (if a soldier does this though- he'd better be right).

The article says he wasn't ever charged for the two incidents, so they wouldn't have been on his record. Something else to think about- you get a discharge every time you re-enlist. In other words, I re-upped once- I now have two honorable discharges. Before the Army signs you to a new contract, they release you totally from your old one. You sign some papers stating that your old contract is fullfilled, you get your honorable discharge and then you sign your re-enlistment papers and take the oath again.

Last point, if a soldier "hand carries" his personal military file to his next unit- all his misconduct will disappear before he reaches his destination. It's.... Common.

15 posted on 10/31/2002 11:12:24 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: gubamyster
Wasn't Muhammad court marshaled twice?

I know I heard that in some of the initial reports after he and the illegal alien
were picked up.
I think it was also said he'd been dishonorably discharged.

I missed out of the military experience (thanks to a lung that spontaneously
collapsed four times on me in high school); I was puzzled that this reported
military career.


But I'll give Muhammed and Co. credit for getting me to grin a little bit...when I read
in The Los Angeles Times that their Chevrolet Caprice gun-carriage/snipers nest
was purchased at (I'm not making this up):
Sure Shot Autos of Trenton, N.J.

(got to find something to relieve the stress/angst of the situation...)
21 posted on 10/31/2002 6:39:03 PM PST by VOA
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