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Wiccans Offer Alternative to Boy Scouts
CNSNews.com ^ | October 31, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 10/31/2002 9:05:17 AM PST by H8DEMS

(CNSNews.com) - Frustrated by an unsuccessful campaign to achieve religious recognition from the Boy Scouts of America, a Seattle-based Wicca church has launched its own youth program, which is based on tolerance for different beliefs, including differences in sexual orientation.

SpiralScouts founder Pete 'Pathfinder' Davis believes that many of the things the Boy Scouts are doing are "socially inappropriate." He said he created to the SpiralScouts to "fill the void left by prejudicial treatment of other established children's programs."

Davis, who serves as the Archpriest of the Wiccan Aquarian Tabernacle Church, said his main argument with the BSA is that the group has refused to recognize Wicca as an acceptable form of worship, but at the same time, the BSA incorporates the symbols of myriad Christian denominations into its Religious Emblems program.

He said the Scouts rejected a Wicca badge that was designed and submitted by a well-known Wiccan priestess.

In 1999, Davis created the SpiralScouts as the Aquarian Tabernacle Church's "answer" to the Boy Scouts and other youth organizations that subscribe only to "traditional" faiths. Today, the SpiralScouts welcomes children of all ages (four and up) and backgrounds, including Wiccans, pagans, atheists and homosexuals.

Davis said practicing Wicca is not a mandatory activity for the 50 SpiralScout units currently operating across the U.S., Canada and Switzerland. Beyond fostering a respect for nature, it is up to each SpiralScout unit leader to decide whether they will teach children the principles and philosophy of the Wiccan religion.

The vast majority of the SpiralScout units are operated by Wiccan groups and churches, he said.

"When we started to formalize the program, we designed it in a fashion that it's oriented towards earth religion, but so is Scouting, whether they realize it or not," Davis said. Unlike the "pervasive" use of Christianity contained within the BSA, the SpiralScouts was created to accommodate the spiritual beliefs of any minority religious group, he said.

SpiralScouts describes itself as a work in progress. It says it offers children the opportunity to develop interpersonal and life skills and a pagan world view, in addition to learning "the usual handicrafts of scouting and woodland lore."

Boy Scouts dismiss rejection

According to BSA spokesman Gregg Shields, religious emblems are the property of approved religious scouting organizations and are awarded at their own discretion. For example, he said the National Catholic Council on Scouting and the National Jewish Committee on Scouting each have their own unique religious emblem.

"There is no national Wiccan organization," Shields said. "So, that's why there is no religious award for Wiccans."

He encouraged any Wiccan group that would like to charter a troop in their community to submit an application to their local BSA council for consideration.

Focus on tolerance

According to the SpiralScouts membership requirements, it is imperative that parents and leaders promote religious and cultural tolerance so their children may learn to co-exist with society as a whole. Specifically, the group encourages children to accept the "differing roles of male and female throughout nature and culture."

Contrary to the Boy Scout policy of excluding homosexuals - a policy upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court - the SpiralScouts welcomes homosexuals within its ranks. Davis explained that the Wiccan religion accommodates homosexuals because its philosophy is focused on the "balance of polarities" of that exist in nature.

For example, Davis said the SpiralScouts mandates that leaders of individual units should include both a male and a female. However, he said the rules are flexible because some adults, such as homosexuals, "believe themselves to be embodying masculine or feminine characteristics."

Davis believes that such a male/female balance of leadership ensures a SpiralScout's positive integration into the real world. "Children are not born with prejudices," he noted. "They have to learn prejudice and intolerance from others."

Defiance of 'extreme right'

According to the group's handbook, "SpiralScouts is something new, something perhaps of historic proportions for modern Paganism. It certainly will have an unmistakable impact on Pagan children growing up in this era of Christian extreme-right domination of our culture."

According to the SpiralScouts' interpretation of the pagan philosophy, children participating in the program will learn to honor "both the maleness and femaleness we all harbor within us," as the handbook put it. "Perhaps, if we are lucky, even a few parents who may need some brushing up on these same skills may reap benefits just from being there with the children while the kids learn these things."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: atheists; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; devil; homosexuals; satan; scouts; wiccans
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To: Aric2000
Be nice Aric2000.

And have a wonderful Celtic New Year!

61 posted on 10/31/2002 11:37:04 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Aric2000
I am not a defender of the Catholic Church and its inequities, I am a Christian who belives in the Word of God and his son, Jesus Christ.

Name calling is about what I would expect, as your rebuttal.
Ops4 God Bless America!
62 posted on 10/31/2002 11:37:31 AM PST by OPS4
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To: OPS4
Sorry, when you start name calling people that you do not understand, you sound like a typical iditic religiously intolerant A-hole.

I am what I am, you are what you are, if you need to be a christian, well hurray for your side, but to call me names and be intolerant of me because I am not is not only ridiculous, it is moronic.

See the first amendment of the constitution. I have the freedom to be pagan, just as you have the freedom to be a christian. and to start spouting off when it is obvious you don't have a clue, well, expect me to get pissed.
66 posted on 10/31/2002 11:41:30 AM PST by Aric2000
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To: PenguinWry
Do some of your own homework I gave the sources, Crowley makes it clear and what I said about Crowley is his exact vision of perfection.

Read the book again, or pretend to know the truth.

Ops4 God Bless America!
67 posted on 10/31/2002 11:43:00 AM PST by OPS4
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To: Hunble
I shall indeed, the bonfire will be burning high and bright tonight!!

68 posted on 10/31/2002 11:43:05 AM PST by Aric2000
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To: OPS4
Golden Dawn, Wicca, Aquarian Gospels, Stonhedge, Keys to the Mysteries by Abbe Louis Constant aka Eliphas Levi

Thirty years wasted.

Golden Dawn, thought up by Crowley and Regardie. Based loosely on jewish quabbala with a little egyptian mythos thrown in.

Wicca. Loosely based off of Celtic druidism by Gerald Gardner. Also split down with older traditions that have been extant since before the Inquisition. Currently co-opted by every looney liberal cause out there.

Aquarian Gospels. If there is any evidence of some Christ figure writing his Gospel, in his own words, then I'm sure the Vatican would have already had it locked up in their vaults. It'd be right next to the Gospel of St. Thomas.

30 years and you never learned how to spell "Stonehenge"? No one is really sure who built the monument that stands there, nor what they used it for. Anyone who tells you they know for certain is probably lying.

I wouldn't have bothered replying, but you sounded like you needed help.

69 posted on 10/31/2002 11:43:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: TonyRo76
Yup, many are whacked and use the term Wicca very loosely.

If you dare to claim that you are Wicca, you darn better know exactly what you are talking about.

Personally, I am sick and tired of idiots abusing this religion for their own personal or political gains.

70 posted on 10/31/2002 11:43:21 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Dead Corpse
Nice to see you still around old friend.
71 posted on 10/31/2002 11:45:31 AM PST by Hunble
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To: OPS4
I can be a moral person without threats of eternal damnation, it is obvious that you cannot.

Therefore it is good that you are a christian, and it good that I am not. I take PERSONAL responsibility for ALL my actions, what about you? or is it still the old "the devil made me do it" attitude.

Sorry, don't mean to sound intolerant, because I am not.

Some people need threats to be moral, others do not. I happen to not need those threats.
73 posted on 10/31/2002 11:47:02 AM PST by Aric2000
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To: PenguinWry
Not to mention the little detail that Crowley was not Wiccan.

The dude was a drug addict. Some of his stuff was usefully, but you always have to take his words with a grain of salt.

75 posted on 10/31/2002 11:48:19 AM PST by Hunble
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To: OPS4
Read Crowleys book of Magik. and Laveys Satanic Bible

I have. And....?

Oh... and its LeVay. Anton Szandor.

As for Crowley... would you follow this man?


76 posted on 10/31/2002 11:49:22 AM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: Aric2000
Why do you say that. I've done quite a bit of research on wicca, my second favorite religion, and almost every time I come across a male into wicca he's a homo. I keep thinking I can have an interesting conversation with a wiccan but that is never the case. With male wiccans it seems to be about meeting other homos. With females, it's just an anti male anti christianity chip on their shoulder though they are very often hetero.
77 posted on 10/31/2002 11:49:40 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: TexVet
Personally, I'm glad to see something like this. The BSA is getting way too narrow/closed minded. Hmmm... somehow they begin to remind me of the Catholic Church.

The BSA hasn't change a thing. Which policies do you think are narrow/closed minded? Not letting gay men go camping with our sons?

78 posted on 10/31/2002 11:51:17 AM PST by Crusher138
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To: Aric2000
I never said you should belive what I believe.
I have given facts that I have derived from my own research
whether the writers of the books are not in agreement with your form of belief does not mean that many people who have followed these writers have not taken up those beliefs.

Much like the Catholic Church and many so-called christian denominations to a Christian like myself, I do not agree with them, My concern is such that if we have Wiccans of the beliefs some ritulistic cults have taken on, we would not be helping children by driving them into their arms.

I only try and focus on the teachings as laid out in the Judeo-Chrisitan Bible, that does not mean I am saying we should do away with freedom of speech and religion, after all the test here is to use our free will and make choices,
I do not agree that alternatives like Wicca is a better choice than the Boy Scouts and thier foundations.
80 posted on 10/31/2002 11:51:38 AM PST by OPS4
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