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Schroeder tells Germans to sacrifice (more taxes)
BBC News ^ | October 29 2002

Posted on 10/29/2002 3:05:01 PM PST by knighthawk

Germany's Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has told the country that taxes must rise, the welfare state be cut back and the labour market be liberalised. The dire warnings came in the Chancellor's first policy speech since the re-election of his governing coalition of Social Democrats and Greens a month ago.

His speech was dominated by economic issues, and the threat of war with Iraq.

Once again Mr Schroeder pledged to cut unemployment - standing at 10% of the workforce or just over four million people - echoing his broken promise of four years ago, when he said he would push the queues at job centres to less than 3.5m workers.

But Mr Schroeder ruled out government spending to stimulate growth.

And he once again stated his opposition to a US war against Iraq, a stance that is credited with helping him to win re-election, but has soured relations with Washington.

Germany "will not participate in any military strike against Iraq", he said.

Tough times

"People in Germany know that we are living in difficult economic times," he said before launching into a defence of his government's plans to raise taxes.

Taunting the opposition, he said German voters had re-elected his government because they "expressly did not decide to scrap the welfare state, cut benefits indiscriminately and roll back employees' rights".

But that came with a warning that "some entitlements, rules and allowances of the German welfare state" would be reconsidered.

The opposition immediately decried Mr Schroeder as dishonest over the tax increases and claimed the election was a fraud.

"It's indecent what you're doing," said Angela Merkel, leader of the conservative opposition Christian Democrats who were beaten by Mr Schroeder by just 6,027 votes.

Economic outlook

Mr Schroeder said there were few signs of improvement in the global economy in the short term

"The development in the international financial and stock markets, reticence by consumers and investors in all the major economies, continued uncertainty in raw materials and energy markets and the explosive situation in the Middle East provide little cause for hope of an early improvement in the world economy," he said.

He reiterated that Germany was committed to balancing its budget by 2006, in line with the European Union's Stability and Growth Pact.

"It must be clear that the stability pact itself is not under discussion," he said.

"What we need is more flexibility to permit countermeasures in times of economic difficulty."

Germany admitted this month that a stagnant economy would push its budget deficit this year above the ceiling of 3% of gross domestic product set by the pact.

Germany, Europe's largest economy, is expected to grow just 0.4 this year and 1.4% next.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; schroeder; taxes; taxraise
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I hope Germans are happy to have him back for another round.
1 posted on 10/29/2002 3:05:01 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; keri; Turk2; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 10/29/2002 3:05:43 PM PST by knighthawk
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Das ist Schade! If the huns want to dance naked in the woods and worship dwarfs we should cut our military presence to exactly what suits our purposes and make sure not another dime gets out to aid their impotent economy. The krauts have already given up their manhood why not a few more Marks?
3 posted on 10/29/2002 3:11:00 PM PST by Righty1
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To: knighthawk
Germany admitted this month that a stagnant economy would push its budget deficit this year above the ceiling of 3% of gross domestic product set by the pact.

France gets away with this so why not Germany?

4 posted on 10/29/2002 3:12:08 PM PST by facedown
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the labour market be liberalised

Any idea what this means in the American language?

5 posted on 10/29/2002 3:14:54 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Righty1
Thet also gave up the D Mark. They use Euros now.
6 posted on 10/29/2002 3:17:15 PM PST by csmusaret
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To: knighthawk
That should 'go over' like the proverbial 't_rd in a punchbowl'
But then again, nowdays, Germany is pretty much a 'punchbowl full of t_rds'

45semi


7 posted on 10/29/2002 3:19:57 PM PST by 45semi
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""People in Germany know that we are living in difficult economic times,"

Plus - it's going to get a lot worse, once Americans decide to stop buying German products...from the back stabbing bastards.
Semper Fi

8 posted on 10/29/2002 3:20:46 PM PST by river rat
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""People in Germany know that we are living in difficult economic times,"

Plus - it's going to get a lot worse, once Americans decide to stop buying German products...from the back stabbing bastards.
Semper Fi

9 posted on 10/29/2002 3:21:13 PM PST by river rat
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From what I read, he had these economic clouds hanging over his head before the election but successfully made the election a referendum on George W. Bush. So basically he got elected so that the Germans could flip the bird to the US.

I hoped it felt good, because it's going to hurt now and for a long time.

10 posted on 10/29/2002 3:21:58 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: RightWhale
Less rules I guess on employment.
11 posted on 10/29/2002 3:22:35 PM PST by knighthawk
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I surely hope it gets worse for the lot of them. Back-stabbers.
12 posted on 10/29/2002 3:24:36 PM PST by LaGrone
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Yeah, probably. I wonder if they have a high minimum wage or if labor unions or EEO [if they have such a thing] are involved.
13 posted on 10/29/2002 3:25:45 PM PST by RightWhale
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Yep. "You will have to pay more in order to receive less"
14 posted on 10/29/2002 3:26:58 PM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: AmishDude
What goes around comes around Gerhard. When you need our help President Bush will issue our reply, and I'm sure you won't like it. Heheheh!
15 posted on 10/29/2002 3:27:18 PM PST by LaGrone
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Germany, Europe's largest economy, is expected to grow just 0.4 this year and 1.4% next.

However, this was calculated before the future tax increases come into play.

In unrelated news, the German economy has sunk to a level just below '1990s Japan', but the Ministry of Economics is still pleased that the outlook for growth 'won't be as bad as it is in Iraq...at least we hope so'....

16 posted on 10/29/2002 3:30:59 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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the labour market be liberalised

Any idea what this means in the American language?

There may be other reasons for their economic problems, but high taxes hurt it badly. Another thing that hurts, is their extreme socialistic policies concerning employee benefits, with 6 weeks paid vacation a year, among other things. These policies almost assure double digit unemployment because the cost of doing business is so high. Further liberalising their labor, as they put it, will almost guarantee things will get worse before they get better.

17 posted on 10/29/2002 3:35:13 PM PST by Mark17
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Folks will soon understand - that many of our "old friends" in Western Europe were simply old women hiding behind America's protective tanks and troops..

Americans will also soon acknowledge that the only thing most of Western Europe loved about Americans - is their wallets and generosity.

Those of us old enough to remember, and fortunate enough to be able to afford European vacations -- should give serious consideration to avoiding Germany, France, Sweden and Finland for the recent obnoxious behavior of their leaders or major organizations....

Semper Fi

18 posted on 10/29/2002 3:35:16 PM PST by river rat
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I couldn't agree more. My father was in Europe fighting in WWII. He turned in his grave I'm sure on Shroeder's comments. Gerhard should learn there is a price to pay for disloyalty, and let every other country see Germany pay the price so they will know also.
19 posted on 10/29/2002 3:41:25 PM PST by LaGrone
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To: knighthawk
Schroeder is trying what I call the Florio Maneuver. That is, run by basically saying you will solve all the problems and not raise taxes, then once you get in immediately raise them through the roof with the expectation that several years down the road, when your re-election bid comes up, the voters will have forgotten.

Florio did just this in NJ and I recall at the time the liberal press praised this dishonest practice as courageous, and the democratic machine considered him a model to be followed by their party on the national level. That is, until his re-election came up and a bitter NJ remembered quite well and turned him out of office in an embarassingly lopsided election. May history repeat itself in Germany.

20 posted on 10/29/2002 4:10:46 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
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