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Descent into Evil (John Muhammad suspected of attack on US troops during Gulf War)
Newsweek ^ | Nov 4 2002 issue | Evan Thomas

Posted on 10/28/2002 9:14:43 AM PST by spycatcher

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To: browardchad
Two points.

State residency is not necessarily a prerequisite to guard membership. When I commanded a company in Alabama, I had several unit members that lived in other states. Of course, my unit was located near the Tn/Al border.

Second, I'm not sure just how one gets a court martial in the guard. The UCMJ only applies when the unit is in federal service. IOW, this guy would have had to be on active duty and, therefore, his courts martial would not be related to guard service. In my three years as a CO, I gave no Article 15s or CMs. There were other ways of enforcing discipline but the UCMJ was not one of them. Of course, I was a CO in the early 80s, maybe things have changed.
121 posted on 10/28/2002 2:47:50 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: TexKat
"Some quotes about Islam from the President and First Lady:"

Sorry...HE was never a president. The last PRESIDENT we had was GHW Bush, ending in 1992. SHE was never a "first lady"...OR a second, OR a third...or ANY type of lady for that matter.

122 posted on 10/28/2002 2:49:05 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: TexKat; aristeides; Fred Mertz; Iwentsouth; honway; Travis McGee; OKCSubmariner
Abdurahman Alamoudi!!!!!!

He is a distant relative of the Bin Laden funder Al-Amoudi.

During the USS Cole attack days, I was hot on his trail.

This former Hillary funder has also been a guest in the BUSH WHITE HOUSE after 9/11 !

He has a degree in some kind of BIO-MED.

His Yemen relative Al-Amoudi and Bin Laden relatives own or owned stock in HYBRIDON.

Hybridon has a history of ANTISENSE,etc yada ,yada in BIOWEAPONS.

This is part of what I call the Bin Laden Medical Matrix.

There are thousands of Islamic terrorists inbedded in our pharmecuetical-healthcare-hospital delivery systems.

The Abdurahman Alamoudi in your article is responsible for going to Republican memebers of Congress and getting them to WORK AGAINST the works of BODANSKY,the former Republican staff terrorism investigator.

All of these items are documented here and on the web.

Our enemies are here,on the web, and following us.

John Allen Williams Muhammad and John Malvo had a working LAPTOP in the CAPRICE with them as they murdered Americans!

Who were the two killers emailing?

Were the snipers FREEPERS?

My anger is unending,my time and skills on this puter thingy are feeble, but I know Abdurahman Alamoudi is Americas enemy.
123 posted on 10/28/2002 2:54:48 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: dmz
"Is every crime committed by a Muslim now ME terrorism? I don't think so."

Unless you're being pickyune about it, you are sadly mistaken. Ever act of TERRORISM (and this definitely qualifies) committed by a MUSLIM TERRORIST qualifies as ME terrorism...or rather, if you want to split hairs, it qualifies as Islamonazi terrorism. Muslim terrorist groups are all loosely affiliated under the blanket Islamist/Terrorist Organized Crime Ring. If you cannot see that, I am very dorry for you...and your family, or ANYONE your persistant blindness allows to die untimely.

124 posted on 10/28/2002 3:00:30 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Betty Jo
Isn't Political Correctness just the greatest thing in the world.

That is if you are Nation Of Islam Serial Sniper/Killer/? like John Muhammed.

Thanks for the feedback. I can't watch Greta, I have to get my feedback on what happens on her show from good freepers like you.
125 posted on 10/28/2002 3:01:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: cake_crumb
Sorry, even. Geeez, I PROOFREAD that...
126 posted on 10/28/2002 3:03:57 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Aquinasfan
So he tried fraggin' his Sarge ...

... and screwed up by using the wrong kind of inflm. grenade.

.... But did you notice that the other killings (in Oregon) were also by burning? (In other words, while overseas, he tried to kill people he hated by burning out their tent ...and here (in the US) he (apparently) tried burning out people he hated by burning their house.)
127 posted on 10/28/2002 3:11:37 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Betty Jo
Go to one of my favorite bookmarks about how for years the Islamofascists have contributed to the Clintoons: (Hillary Accepts Contributions from Boston Area Muslim Terrorist Supporters)

Also in this article is a paragraph of one your long time favorite Islamofascist and his relationship with the Clintoons:

Mrs. Clinton has hosted events at the Executive Mansion "to which individuals opposed to the Mideast peace process and Israel's existence were invited," the Daily News reported. Her Senate campaign returned a $1,000 contribution from one of those visitors, Abduraham Alamoudi of the American Muslim Council. According to the Daily News, Alamoudi once declared: "We are the ones who went to the White House and defended what is called Hamas," the Palestinian terrorist group whose 1994-1996 suicide-bombing campaign killed 130 people and wounded some 600 others. Shortly after one of its bombs exploded in Jerusalem in August 1997, Alamoudi told Fox News about Hamas: "I think it's a freedom-fighting organization."


128 posted on 10/28/2002 3:14:12 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: per loin
Aha... thanx for the clarification.
129 posted on 10/28/2002 3:16:09 PM PST by TechJunkYard
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To: DugwayDuke; Sabertooth; Grampa Dave
Each state has its own UCMJ, which almost mirrors the federal UCMJ.

Muhammad served in Oregon under a one year trial period. The one year trial period allows you to break your contract if you find that taking orders and discipline hurts your self esteem. My guess is that he probably only pulled a couple of drills during his 12 month stint.

130 posted on 10/28/2002 3:22:08 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Was he assigned to the Portland unit?

Thanks!
131 posted on 10/28/2002 3:26:58 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
He was in the Army - Moose in AIr Guard. Chances are they never even came close to meeting, except maybe at an NAACP meeting.
132 posted on 10/28/2002 3:36:32 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Sabertooth
On, please. Thanks.
133 posted on 10/28/2002 3:45:50 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: dmz
How long will crow keep in the fridge, still plenty of time for me to be way wrong...

Darn near forever. It's like yogurt, no-one can tell when it's gone bad...

;^)

134 posted on 10/28/2002 4:10:53 PM PST by null and void
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
They do seem to like burning people. Kathleen Smith, the incinerated Tenn DMV worker, issued a fake driver's license to a man who "did some work" on the sprinkler system at the WTC in early September...
135 posted on 10/28/2002 4:16:58 PM PST by null and void
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To: Sabertooth
Go Sabertooth! You are doing a great job tying loose ends together. You are the Sabertooth puzzlemaster!

Please keep it up!
136 posted on 10/28/2002 4:26:41 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: null and void
My dad, long-time civil engineer consultant in Texas, said the smoke, fire, and flame intensity in the WTC was "way, way too much to be due to the airplane fuel alone - even when combined with the papers and office material in the area.

He's been deeply suspicious of "flamables" packed intot heose floors ahead of time ... such as in "unboxed" containers or something else.

Sprinkler systems "work" could be an excuse for more sabatogue/mayhem.

Such as filling the sprinlker system with a combustable? Or simply "securing" the system in that area so was no effect?
137 posted on 10/28/2002 4:34:53 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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To: MonroeDNA
He was the Scarlet Pimpernel with an assault weapon,(from the Newsweak article)

Scarlet Pimpernel my a$$, this overblown rhetoric has me seething. These guys are d*&# lowlifes!

Sorry for this tirade but I can't help think of the victim's families.

138 posted on 10/28/2002 4:34:57 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; Betty Jo; aristeides; antivenom
This article is a red herring, misdirection piece IMHO.

I think the lily whites here are getting the pile on treatment.

I expect in a day or two they will confess to everything, however. Every man can be broken by the government experts, but these two are apparently tough cookies thus far.
139 posted on 10/28/2002 5:11:23 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: dmz
Is every crime committed by a Muslim now ME terrorism? I don't think so.

No I wouldn't say that for sure but in this case it certainly seems to be. You have to admit that lately where muslims are there is bound to be dead Americans. I am not saying that he was hired out by AQ but I am saying that he shares their ideas and his goals are/were the same. I can not say for sure that he is AQ but I think that if he was given the chance he would take out more American lives. He is accused of plotting against American troops and I think that is reason enough to believe that he has terroristic tendencies and ideas.

140 posted on 10/28/2002 5:19:38 PM PST by Mixer
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