[icwhatudo]

This was viewed on their ticker this morning-no link yet. Can anyone confirm or provide a link to this story?

Also-looking for a link to a Washingtpon Post(or other) story detailing how it was a citizen, not police, that found the car and only after the media heard it pon a scanner. Thanks!

[habs4ever]

What ends were the police serving by not being more dismissive of the White Van Theory?

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

The police, especially the feds wholeheartedly believe that cops can only solve all crime, when in reality the vast majority of crimes are solved by vigilant citizens who report a tip or call 911.

I think that slowly the wall the liberals have erected is beginning to crack. The wall that makes the sheep believes that the government can and will protect you only if you place all your trust in the politicians and repent.

It amazed me that CNN was running on the street interviews just the other days with people admitting they not longer believed the cops could protect them etc…

Maybe to every storm cloud there is a silver lining?

[dirtboy]

CNN reported on their ticker this morning that police issued an alert October 7 for the snipers Caprice but decided to keep it from the public.

I don't believe it - because on October 8th a cop found Muhammad sleeping in the Caprice and let him go on his way. This is pure CYA.

[Grampa Dave]

You might want to go to the link to a thread I posted this past weekend on this issue: (Police spotted suspects' car 10 times during sniper spree (PC killed more innocents!, link)

[Mr. Bird]

I'm sure there was a lot of crap being transmitted to law enforcement only. Items like this are curious in hindsight, but they could have had an alert out for 3 or 4 other vehicle types. They may have received a tip that an Asian man was seen driving a VW at three of the shooting sites. So they'd put word out amongst themselves, so what? Nothing to see here.

[breakem]

One possible strategy, the bad guys will switch cars if we announce.

Don't know how they could spread the info around to various agencies without it becoming public anyway.

[FreeTheHostages]

I live in the DC area and I know for a fact it wasn't secret. At the DC shooting of the 72-year old, DC police said a witness saw a caprice. This was being reported by the local news at the time. I remember hearing it.

[dawn53]

Since the suspect was apprehended within a couple of hours of them releasing accurate details of the Caprice, I've wondered if some deaths could have been prevented if they had released that info earlier.

I've never seen anybody nail down exactly when they suspected the Caprice was actually the sniper's car, but if I was a family member of one of the victims, I'd sure be asking some hard questions like, "What did the police know and when did they know it?", and if they suspected the Caprice, why not release that info instead of just the white van/truck info.

[fooman]

Posted this on another thread also. This just makes me sick.

[Future Useless Eater]

In June, Muhammad planned sniper shootings of a gas truck, and a police officer. He also planned to bomb the police funeral. By September his plans changed to (random?) sniper killings.

So here are my collections of the facts and assumptions:

• THREE or more terrorists cooked up the plan to buy a used POLICE CAR and turn it into a killing machine.
• September 11 - Three of them buy the car and register it in New Jersey. The date, and the fact that it was a police car are both important to them.
  Muhammad and Osbourne co-registered the car while another calls in a bomb threat at the DMV.
• September 14 - The shooters try out their sniper car for the first time outside a Silver Spring, Maryland liquor store on a SATURDAY night. The victim survives, and the bullet is too fragmented to match with later shootings. No more sniper shootings occur there for two and a half weeks because the terrorists are out of town.
• September 14- Thinking they've killed someone at the liquor store, terrorists leave immediately for a planned two-week training at "Ground Zero" camp in Marion, Alabama. The terrorist training manuals teach shooters to lay down and fire backwards out of a vehicle (like a flatbed truck). with another person driving away slowly. This later turns out to be exactly the technique used around D.C.
• September 21 - While in Alabama, Muhammad and Malvo rob and kill at a Montgomery liquor store. Again, this is a Saturday night. A third terrorist assists their escape using the blue Chevrolet Caprice.
• October 1 - Terrorists drive all night to return to Silver Spring, Maryland, all pumped up to kill. They get rested at a safe-house, possibly at the Mohammed residence (apartment #5) at 3974 Bel Pre Road, [this is the same address as the last shooting]. Nation of Islam converts often change their last names to Mohammad, and the shooters know them to be sympathetic or co-conspirators themselves.
• October 2 - Terrorists spend the day planning their hits, and by 5pm start their shooting spree one block from the apartment, at the Michaels store. [Police should check if the store clerk almost killed had ever met John Mohammad, Lee Malvo, or anyone living at the Bel Pre apartments]
• Another shooting will later occur TWO blocks from the apartment, at a gas station.
• Police are convinced the shooters must live nearby, since so many shooting occur in close proximity and shooters know the area very well.
• The last fatal shooting will occur directly outside the apartment on Bel Pre road. Mohammad, who frequently rides busses in that area, probably knew, and has been angered in the past by the driver or one of his co-workers.

[CWRWinger]

What did Moosie know and when did he know it?

[jackbill]

Check out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13610-2002Oct24.html

[jackbill]

Check out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13610-2002Oct24.html

[wcbtinman]

I have no reason not to believe my source, but this weekend I talked to an ATF agent from the area of the shootings, and he confirmed to me that they knew who the sniper was a week before he was caught, but just couldn't locate him. The agent would not disclose the method used to ID the guy.

In frustration, they finally issued the BOLO for the Caprice.

[Spunky]

Also-looking for a link to a Washingtpon Post(or other) story detailing how it was a citizen, not police, that found the car and only after the media heard it pon a scanner. Thanks!

I don't know if anyone gave you a link to Washington Post story or any other article, but here is a link to a video of the truck driver who called 911.

Trucker: snipers' car looked ``fishy''
Truck driver Ron Lantz on how he called 911 after spotting a wanted car at a Maryland
rest stop; leading to the sniper suspects' arrests.

Trucker sees the snipers

[Minutemen]

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