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Muhammad, Malvo May be Connected To Alabama Terror Camp
newscourt.com ^ | 10-24-02 | john pender

Posted on 10/24/2002 6:00:09 AM PDT by kingfish45n

newscourt.com - Authorities are investigating into possible ties between John Muhammad, John Lee Malvo and a training camp reportedly linked to Islamic terrorists in Marion, Alabama. European law enforcement officials believe Muslims were using the camp to prepare for a holy war, according to a July 25 2002, report by ABC NEWS.

An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of "Camp Ground Zero," in Alabama. Bullet-riddled school buses and police cars with mannequin targets were scattered around the grounds. Inside a large warehouse were shot-up mannequins, in domestic settings, with blood-like stains on them.

Ground Zero's operators - also British - offered world-class training in automatic weapons and urban warfare, supposedly to fight terrorism. Marion police became suspicious of the use of buses and police cars as targets, but the camp owners refused to comment on the matter in July.

"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda. We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and trained in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.

The most radical of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a July 2002 phone call that America's laws make paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

British intelligence officials told ABC NEWS they were examining ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.

The pressing question for police is whether there is a connection between the camp, John Muhammad and John Malvo.

The credit card that Muhammad allegedly used as a transfer account for the $10 million demanded in ransom by the D.C. snipers belonged to a woman who was killed in a liquor store robbery in Marion, Ala., last month. Police also report that Malvo's DNA was found at the scene of that robbery and murder.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaeda; blackmuslims; blackpanthers; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers
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so much for the "angry white male" garbage...the media experts are running for cover about now..major damage control...amazing...world net daily, newsmax and newscourt all reported the police BOLO weeks ago..hte major media totally ignored it....
1 posted on 10/24/2002 6:00:09 AM PDT by kingfish45n
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To: kingfish45n
http://www.nbc13.com/news/1578748/detail.html

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- State officials say an investigation uncovered no evidence that a camp near Marion was used as a terrorist training camp.

Wednesday night, ABC News said the camp could have possible ties to Osama bin Laden's terror network.

A Tuscaloosa man operates the Marion Camp, called Ground Zero USA.

Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he was misquoted. Buford said the camp is used by police officers from Alabama and Louisiana for training that includes target practice.

NBC News first reported in December that a man with alleged Al-Qaida ties, named Zain Ul Albidin, was arrested in Great Britain. Albidin alleged that terrorists trained in the camp in Marion.

A spokesman for Gov. Don Siegelman and Department of Public Safety officials said they are aware of the reports. But after conducting background investigations of the site they found no reason to be concerned.

The camp made news again Wednesday because Albidin is being questioned in connection with the terror attacks of Sept. 11.

2 posted on 10/24/2002 6:05:32 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Shooter 2.5
ping - maybe... (a pair of Islamics)
3 posted on 10/24/2002 6:08:33 AM PDT by CapandBall
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To: kingfish45n
If its terror related it will be covered up.
4 posted on 10/24/2002 6:10:32 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: kingfish45n
Islam is a religion of peace, rape, homicide-bombing and cowardly sniper attacks.
5 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: kingfish45n
Ummm, what is BOLO? Just wondering...JFK
6 posted on 10/24/2002 6:15:39 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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To: Retired Chemist
Islam is a peaceful religion as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered, and the infidels killed.
7 posted on 10/24/2002 6:18:31 AM PDT by jrlc
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Be On the Look Out

(words to live by...)
8 posted on 10/24/2002 6:18:38 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: kingfish45n
MOntgomery, Al police chief Wilson says he knows nothing about a Ground Zero training facility in Marion, Al. He says no credit card information came from the liquor store shooting that happened there. He says the gun used in that shooting is not the same gun used in sniper shootings.

The Chief says much of the information being reported by the media is incorrect.

From the scroll at the bottom of the MSNBC screen, Police are not clear if Montgomery AL shooting is connected to DC sniper.

9 posted on 10/24/2002 6:19:11 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Redbob
Oh ok, thanks!...JFK
10 posted on 10/24/2002 6:19:28 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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To: dalebert
If its terror related it will be covered up.

And if its not terror related, half of FR will still claim it is anyway. So its a ctach-22. No mater what they say, Freepers will still say its terror related.

11 posted on 10/24/2002 6:20:30 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: CapandBall
Mornin Cap....... I wonder if this guy is a registered Dem too? Sure glad he's not an angry white male. Do we know yet exactly what model gun he used?
12 posted on 10/24/2002 6:21:24 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Redbob
MSNBC Brian Williams says, "Hubris"..this may all come down to one word, "Hubris".

Does this man think he's writing a cheap detective novel with his mouth? Everything he says reeks of over the top drama!!

13 posted on 10/24/2002 6:21:37 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: kingfish45n
Nice to know that there is a camp named "Ground Zero," the monniker for the WTC site, operating on US soil and that it has been investigated in the past for possible links to Islamic terrorism.
14 posted on 10/24/2002 6:21:59 AM PDT by Fulbright
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To: YaYa123
MOntgomery, Al police chief Wilson says he knows nothing about a Ground Zero training facility in Marion, Al.

Well, that's obviously BS if he said it like that. The police chief obviously knows about CGZ.

15 posted on 10/24/2002 6:27:34 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: umgud
I still wonder if these guys are opportunists.

Opportunists who know something because there is some connection.

The prior post was right, the authorities are falling all over themselves to say it is not connected to moslem terrorism.
16 posted on 10/24/2002 6:27:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: kingfish45n
"so much for the "angry white male" garbage...the media experts are running for cover about now..major damage control...amazing..."

Yes indeedie. Last night, Aaron "Errin'" Brown looked as though he were covering his daughter's funeral on CNN's Newsnight - wincing every time he was forced to:

1. Say the name Muhammed;
2. Show the "pic' o' th' perp";
3. Describe the suspect as a BLACK and a MUSLIM.

CNN, for a while, seemed to have a policy of ALWAYS ID'ing the warrantee as "Williams" first and "Muhammed" second. By this morning, that policy, wisely, has been reversed.

I can't wait to see the post-mortems on the rest of the nets today. They were all gearing up for a MAJOR MAJOR push against Southern red-neck crazed Republican NRA members.

Michael

17 posted on 10/24/2002 6:28:42 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: Fulbright
Nice to know that there is a camp named "Ground Zero," the monniker for the WTC site, operating on US soil and that it has been investigated in the past for possible links to Islamic terrorism.

Its been there for years - its a legit place - unfortunately, anyone can rent it or train there. The owners have never been suspected of anything illegal.

18 posted on 10/24/2002 6:29:21 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
The police chief smiled real big when he said it. He added:

Until this morning, when I heard about it from the media...I had never heard about it.

I didn't put that in quotes because it's not exact, but it is exactly the thought I heard him convey.

19 posted on 10/24/2002 6:30:25 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: kingfish45n
Here's a July story about Camp Zero. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/07/26/33240.html
They were being investigated by the govt even back then.
20 posted on 10/24/2002 6:30:52 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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