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Sniper Search near Seattle (digging for evidence)
Local NBC News Channel | Oct 23, 02 | MSNBC

Posted on 10/23/2002 4:20:21 PM PDT by spycatcher

MSNBC reporting sniper related digging and searching of a building in Tacoma WA. FBI is involved. May be related to something the sniper told police


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: search; sniper; tacoma
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To: Howlin
Dang!!!!!
201 posted on 10/23/2002 4:56:51 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: dennisw
#16..My first thought too!
202 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:04 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: spokeshave
9-14 was connected to the sniper...they were NOT gonna give him credit to yank his chain...
203 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:09 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: My Favorite Headache
Seattle man indicted on terror charges

September 4, 2002 Posted: 2:18 AM HKT (1818 GMT)

James Ujaama, right, was born James Earnest Thompson.

From Kelli Arena,br> CNN Washington Bureau

SEATTLE, Washington (CNN) -- A federal grand jury Wednesday indicted a well-known Islamic activist in the Seattle-area on charges of conspiring to set up an al Qaeda terrorist training camp in rural Oregon in an attempt to further promote "violent jihad" against the United States.

Earnest James Ujaama, a U.S. citizen, 36, was charged with two counts in an indictment handed up by the grand jury in Seattle.

The indictment says Ujaama "did knowingly conspire, combine, confederate and agree" to aid Osama bin Laden's terror network, dating back to the fall of 1999.

Ujaama, whose birth name is James Earnest Thompson, was taken into custody last month and has been held at a facility in Virginia, although authorities would not say whether he remains there.

Ujaama denied he had any terrorism links.

"If I have broken any laws and am guilty of crimes against the American people, then I must be held accountable. The fact is that I am innocent of any wrongdoing and am fully prepared to face my accusers and defend myself in a court of law," Ujaama said in a statement released Wednesday by his attorney.

The indictment says the reason for the alleged plot was to "prepare for, and to carry out, a conspiracy to destroy property -- and to murder and maim others."

"The purpose of the conspiracy was to offer and provide facilities in the United States of America for training of persons interested in violent jihad; to provide safe houses in the United States of America for the conspirators; to recruit persons interested in violent jihad and jihad training; to provide actual training of such persons in firearms, military and related activities," the indictment says.

It goes on to say Ujaama allegedly conspired to "sponsor partially trained personnel for further violent jihad training and operations coordinated by al Qaeda."

The indictment says Ujaama himself told his conspirators, who are not named, that he "had attended violent jihad training camps, which were operated by al Qaeda." One of the alleged conspirators is referred to as a bin Laden "hitman."

During October 1999 and November of that year, Ujaama led discussions with others in Seattle and Bly, Oregon, about the need for further training in Afghanistan terror camps, "the commission of armed robberies, the building of underground bunkers to hide ammunition and weapons, the creation of poisonous materials for public consumption, and the firebombing of vehicles," the indictment charges.

It was near Bly that Ujaama allegedly set up the terror training camp. In a fax to one of his alleged conspirators, the indictment says Ujaama compared the property to terrain in Afghanistan and said could be good for storing and concealing "guns, bunkers and ammunition."

The government says Ujaama was involved in a plan to set up a training camp on this Oregon farm. According to the indictment, he and his alleged conspirators "established security for the Bly property through the use of guard patrols and passwords, and they and others participated in firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of improvised poisons."

During this time, Ujaama is also accused of helping operate a Web site for Supporters of Shariah, which the government says was used to "advocate violent jihad against the United States of America and other Western nations."

Earlier this year, while Ujaama was under investigation, he contacted a cooperating witness in May and June to find out whether another individual "who participated in the activities at Bly was cooperating with the government's investigation," the indictment says.

The indictment also says the self-described bin Laden "hitman" also contacted a cooperating witness during that time and asked "whether he should travel to Seattle to assess the situation."

In addition to the conspiracy charge, Ujaama was charged with using, carrying and discharging firearms during a crime of violence.

His attorney, Greg Stambaugh, said Wednesday he would have no comment until he had seen the indictment.

Ujaama is known for his work with the poor in Seattle and has written at least three educational books on entrepreneurship. According to a family friend, Ujaama converted to Islam in the post-civil rights era.

Ujaama's community work was so highly regarded that Seattle once gave him a key to the city and Washington state lawmakers declared June 10, 1994, James Ujaama Day, The Associated Press reported.

Ujaama has attended several mosques that have been investigated to determine whether some attendees were part of an al Qaeda cell operating in the United States, according to law enforcement source. He has lived in both Seattle and London in recent years.

While in London, Ujaama visited the Finsbury Mosque, where Sheikh Abu Hamza preached. Hamza is considered a radical Muslim who has praised the September 11 attacks, and American investigators have been looking into whether Hamza had a role in trying to recruit Americans for al Qaeda in the Seattle area.

Ujaama also traveled to Afghanistan in 1999 to study Islamic code, according to family friends.

Earlier this month, his brother, Mustafa Ujaama, said his brother's travels should not raise suspicions and that it was "completely, completely impossible" he had ties to terrorism.

-- The Associated Press contributed to this story.

204 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:10 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: spycatcher
Yeah the stolen credit card was a huge mistake.

That probably is where the break came in the case, with that credit card. I believed when the killer started communicating with the police that that would lead to some kind of break. I hope that whatever it is, that they get it locked up tonight.

205 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:18 PM PDT by alnick
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To: snickeroon
Un-Blippin'-Believable!!!!! Came up with this theory last week thanks to Michael Savage, who was talking about Moose's former job...... Portland.....bells went off about the Portland arrest.... now we're in Tacoma????

Any connections in the Tacoma and the Portland cell????

Ditto that looks like Savage just beat the media now when he said that they were probably looking for bullets.

206 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:25 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: templar
I did a check on msn.com for a map. It's pretty heavy residential area. No way one could take target practice here without a silencer.
207 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:36 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The post #173 is as specific as I have heard on the tube. They haven't given the exact address to my knowledge.
208 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: My Favorite Headache
THANKS!!!!
209 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:18 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: Iron Eagle
Shep- "There are extenuating circumstances about this neighborhood but we aren't going to go into that right now because the police might not appreciate us mentioning it yet" (paraphrased)

WTF?
210 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:19 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: floriduh voter
Remember also that we have had many terrorist types join the Army, Navy, etc. So former military still doesn't mean it's a angry white guy.
211 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:21 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Howlin
3300 Block of Proctor is what I just heard on Fox.
212 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: sweetliberty
I hope to God that it isn't something like multiple buried suitcase nukes.

Better to find than not, Sweet....

213 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:39 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Vortex
I think they're looking for shell casings possibly from target practice and bullets embedded in stumps and such things.

Yeah, upon further reading, I think you're right. Maybe the objects they are putting in the trucks are sections of soil and stumps containing casings/bullets. Is this residence in the country?

214 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:43 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: PrivateIdaho
Thank you.
215 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:54 PM PDT by vikingchick
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To: sweetliberty
They're saying that they are only searching for shell casings but that doesn't seem to add up to me. Something is being left out. I don't think they would go through this thorough a search for nothing more than a few shell casings.

Yes they would, If they found 50 shell casings and linked even one of them to the rifle that has killed 10 people, IT WOULD BE HUGE. Because of the enormity of the case, any evidence is extremely valuable no matter how minor people think it is.

216 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:57 PM PDT by lmr
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To: William McKinley
Shep- "There are extenuating circumstances about this neighborhood but we aren't going to go into that right now because the police might not appreciate us mentioning it yet" (paraphrased)

Weirder yet.
217 posted on 10/23/2002 4:59:16 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: grimalkin
Deborah Waters, a witness to the scene who lives across the street, says that agents had retrieved some sort of large object and put it in the back of a van. It's not known what the object is

C'mon Freepers, let's figure out who owns the house where the search is being done. Deborah and Chris live at 3309 S Proctor Street. Across is likely 3308, 3310 and 3312.

3310: Robert Holmes
I can't find a 3308 or 3312. Anyone else know anything about this location?

218 posted on 10/23/2002 4:59:17 PM PDT by Koblenz
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To: TommyDale
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=3300+S+Proctor+Street+&csz=Tacoma+WA+&Get%A0Map=Get+Map
219 posted on 10/23/2002 4:59:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: blam
Yeah, they thought the stump was taken as evidence of bullet shell casings or bullets. I don't know why nobody noticed the guy shooting a gun on Proctor St. 3100 block. Some of the facts are changing. Now the press conference has been postponed. But, we are waiting for a news conference at this house? PRESS CONFERENCE MAY HAPPEN LATER BUT NO PROMISES. NOTHING FIRMLY PLANNED.

What gets me is that I think the sniper may be watching this on tv and he's gonna go out tonight to do his thing. Pray that I'm wrong but the guy is bloodthirsty.

220 posted on 10/23/2002 4:59:35 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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