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GUNMAN: PAY OR I'LL KILL AGAIN
New York Post ^ | 10/22/02 | NILES LATHEM, DAN MANGAN, and MARSHA KRANES

Posted on 10/22/2002 12:29:53 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:09:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Psycho Sniper says he wants blood money to end his terrifying murder spree - and he's opened a dialogue with cops to negotiate the payout.

The Beltway sharpshooter made his demand in a three-page note found after his latest attack, on Saturday night, federal law-enforcement sources told The Post.


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To: Diddle E. Squat
The two men - one Mexican, the other Guatemalan - were detained by cops, and their van, which carried Bush-Cheney, Marine Corps and National Rifle Association bumper stickers, was towed away.

Somebody needs to alert the posters from yesterday who swore that the Bush/Cheney sticker wasn't there because they didn't see it. Looks like MSNBC is wrong, but then again, what would they know, they were actually there.

121 posted on 10/22/2002 3:36:46 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: SarahW
"and its not beyond the pale to think the sudden decision to let some of the buggers go is related to the sniper's demands"

It is my understanding that the U.S. has a policy of NOT negotiating with terrorists. I don't think Bush would approve such an arrangement.

122 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:14 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Aquinasfan
"Tarot cards. Ransom. Adds up to a couple of red herrings."

Yeah, I always thought that the tarot cards were a red herring, but the ransom thing threw me. Not sure what to make of it. I don't think it is a legitimate demand for ransom however. Just not sure how it does figure in.

123 posted on 10/22/2002 3:40:22 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Thinkin' Gal
"Guess the best thing to do is to observe what location all the politicians are avoiding."

Ouch! Smart, but cynical. LOL!

124 posted on 10/22/2002 3:41:48 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
With Halloween coming up this could be particularly ominous. I am not a fan of Halloween anyway but I think particularly this year, at least in that area, it would be wise of parents to keep their kids in.

I've been leery of a lot since the shootings began, particularly after the boy was shot. For the last two weeks, I have made sure to run errands when my children aren't with me for fear I'll be shot when they're with me, or, even worse, that one of them will be shot right in front of me. I have the luxury of doing these errands alone because my ex-husband has the kids half the time; I'm also fortunate in that my kids aren't school-age, and I walk them into the house of my daycare provider every morning I have them.

I told my ex-husband that there will be no trick-or-treating this year unless the guy is caught. I doubt he will be, though if he is, I'll still be wary of copycats. Most likely we'll get all dressed up and have candy at home. FReeper mhking suggested hiding candy around the house, which I think is a capital idea. My ex thought I was being ridiculous to not let the kids go trick-or-treating this year (even though I walk with them up to the house, instead of turning them loose on their own or even at the end of a driveway), but ridiculous is as ridiculous does. It would be foolhardy, IMO, for parents to let their children out in the dark just for the sake of some candy.

This latest threat, the explicit one read by Moose this afternoon, won't change how I conduct my life, because I was already freaked out enough to change simple things about what I do with my kids in public. But I sure found it chilling to hear it read verbatim like that. As some others have expressed on here, this afternoon was the first time I have cried throughout this thing. Specifically and explicitly stating an intent to harm children is the lowest blow of any that could be given. Them's fighting words. I'm angry now, and more scared even than before. That bastard can shoot me all he likes, but my dander's all kinds of up about the stated threat to my babies.

125 posted on 10/22/2002 3:45:40 PM PDT by poppyseed
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To: fivecatsandadog
>>"Please call back, we didn't hear you" statement from Moose, all I could think was this sniper or snipers are probably laughing their butts off...<<

That DID have a tinny sound, didn't it?

126 posted on 10/22/2002 3:49:32 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: poppyseed
I agree with you. Why take that kind of chance? Something you might look into is local churches. They often have parties that are offered as Halloween alternatives where the kids can still dress up and play games and get candy.
127 posted on 10/22/2002 3:49:34 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Man of the Right
I don't credit that French marksman story unless he's Algerian

How about if he was a Kosavar from the fighting in the former Yugoslavia circa 1991, with experience in Sarajevo at shooting at women and kids?

Trained and experienced as a UCK/ Kosovo Liberation Army sniper, and now from a force whose standard weapon is the 5,56mm/ .223 FAMAS *Clarion* rifle. He'd be quite familiar with the ballistics of the .223 ammunition, if not necessarily with the use of an M16A1 or similar rifle. And multiple language skills, to boot.


128 posted on 10/22/2002 4:06:56 PM PDT by archy
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To: sweetliberty
They often have parties that are offered as Halloween alternatives where the kids can still dress up...

I wanna sniper outfit for Halloween!


129 posted on 10/22/2002 4:11:02 PM PDT by archy
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To: Eva
bump, interesting idea
130 posted on 10/22/2002 4:53:12 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: sweetliberty
but suppose the guy has someone working with him that IS that stupid, someone who really looks up to him and will believe whatever he says as well as doing whatever he says.

Right on.... like the two dimbulbs in the white van at the pay phone yesterday. I think someone TOLD them, and maybe paid them, to do what they did - a diversion of sorts, and another yank on the old chain.

131 posted on 10/22/2002 5:07:37 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: poppyseed
I agree with you. I wouldn't leave the house or answer the door for anyone.

Them's fighting words. I'm angry now, and more scared even than before.

I believe that is exactly how they want you and everyone else to feel. They just upped the ante.

132 posted on 10/22/2002 5:14:51 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: M. Peach
Did the reporter ever release what information he held back at first?

If you are referring to the MSNBC broadcast I mentioned where the anchor looked at some info and asked if it was okay to share it with the public, he did because he got the answer from the producer just off stage that they had been authorized to share it. I think it was the part about saying there was a mention or hint in the letter from the sniper concerning money.

Whether that authorization was true or not I he did check when he seemed surprised to see it in the text or telepromter, whatever it is they use. I think they figured since it was already being reported in the newspapers down there that it was public domain.

133 posted on 10/22/2002 9:20:29 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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To: philetus
Israel won't pay ransoms.

I say they pay the ransom money in really good counterfeit, marked bills...then be ready to pick him up when he uses them the first time. (especially alerting all banks, travel agencies and airlines in the QT to call the hotline the instant they get a counterfeit bill from ANYONE since they all use those little pen markers to check the bills now in businesses. (I say the banks too in case he decides to deposit any money and charge a plane ticket.)

I probably haven't thought it through enough to be a plausible idea but it's fun to dream! (Which is the ONLY thing fun about this situtation.)

134 posted on 10/22/2002 9:28:56 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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To: dalebert
These were the bumper stickers on the van belonging to the illegals that have been proclaimed "not involved" with sniper attacks. If the illegals bought the van used the stickers could have already been on it. Of course the Dems could have set up. I think the Dems might be involved in the missing little girl case in Florida that O'Reilly keeps pounding Jeb Bush with. Just a thought: Wasn't the press all geared up on the Condit case when 9/11 happened? That could be happening now. Another thought is that if this is not resolved it is a good way to keep people from going to the polls to vote in that area.Dems love to scare people.

I don't know which of the things you mentioned they'd do and which they would not but I will admit they seem more desparate and scared than ever as we approach this election. (The dems, not the voters!)

135 posted on 10/22/2002 9:31:13 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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To: bonfire
FREEZE (Part IV of Fear)
By Neil Peart-Rush-Vapor Trails

The city crouches, steaming
In the early morning half-light
The sun is still a rumor
And the night is still a threat

Slipping through the dark streets
And the echoes and the shadows
Something stirs behind me
And my palms begin to sweat

Sometimes I freeze
Until the light comes
Sometimes I fly
Into the night

Sometimes I fight
Against the darkness
Sometimes I’m wrong
And sometimes I’m right

Coiled for the spring
Or caught like a creature in the headlights
Into a desperate panic
Or a tempest of blind fury

Like a cornered beast
Or a conquering hero

The menace threatens, closing
And I’m frozen in the shadows
I’m not prepared to run away
And I’m not prepared to fight

I can stand to reason
Or surrender to a reflex
I will trust my instincts
Or surrender to my fright

Sometimes we freeze
Until the light comes
Sometimes we’re wrong
And sometimes we’re right
Sometimes we fight
Against the darkness
Sometimes we fly
Into the night

Blood running cold
Mind going down into a dark night
Of a desperate panic
Or a tempest of blind fury

Like a cornered beast
Or a conquering hero

136 posted on 10/22/2002 9:38:29 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: StopGlobalWhining
the two men were cleared of any ties to the sniper and turned over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation, officials said. Does anyone here believe that these 2 guys will actually be deported?

Not a chance. I heard on a news radio station yesterday that they have already hired an imigration lawyer and will most likely not have to be deported.

137 posted on 10/22/2002 9:39:20 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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To: WomanofStandard
I think the sniper wanted the ransom wired and LE is either unable to do this or is refusing. That would coincide with Moose's statement about their inability to complete an electronic "communication"; the sniper doesn't want to be identified or traced. I'm not familiar with wire transfer procedures, but it seems that the tracking of funds would stop abruptly at the receiving end, unlike cold, hard cash.
138 posted on 10/23/2002 5:45:35 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: archy
That wouldn't be good.
139 posted on 10/23/2002 1:16:12 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Hey!!! At least spell my name right if you're gonna take it in vain :-)

Many thanks for untangling my confusion about French vowels.

Perhaps we can get the French to surrender to some vowel deficient Balkan country and gain the benefit of some cross cultural vowel transfer as a result.

Best regards,

140 posted on 10/24/2002 5:59:32 AM PDT by Copernicus
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