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Pregnant pigs on Florida ballot
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 16, 2002 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 10/16/2002 4:44:37 AM PDT by Boonie Rat

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To: Sungirl
Lots of things aren't pleasant when it comes to the mass production of animals - for food or research.

When I was in college in Anatomy & Physiology we had to disect fetal pigs...I alway liked pigs (think they are funny interesting animals)...anyway I naively asked the teacher about the fetal pigs in the crate she was about to hand out... I wondered how many "liters" of pigs this was...not knowing how many they give birth to...
then I asked
" So, did they give the Pregnant Mother a C-section to get these fetal pigs for research?" My professors eyes got WIDE, and her expression was worried and she said NO - no C-section...(she might have thought I was a peta nut) LOL....

and then I realized they killed the mother and just slit her open for the fetal pigs...I felt bad but got over it....

It's just the way things are, and we had to learn hands on disecting the pig for our future degrees in health care etc...

41 posted on 10/16/2002 9:10:59 AM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: Sungirl
The practice of keeping a female pig in a constant state of pregnancy and confined in a tiny crate for her entire life should be illegal.

She should at least have a double-wide and maybe a satellite dish.

My problem with stunts like this is (1) this is NOT an issue that belongs in any constitution, not even Florida's, and (2) hardly anyone who votes on this matter ON EITHER SIDE understands what they are voting for or against. This belongs on the Florida legislature's agricultural committee where knowledgeable people who understand the issue can argue both sides over a period of time and decide if there are regulations that make sense. I imagine Flordia has anti-cruelty laws, and if someone thinks this is cruelty to animals, they should swear out a warrant. It does NOT belong on a ballot initiative or a constitutional amendment.

42 posted on 10/16/2002 9:35:37 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: SunnyUsa
It's just the way things are

Yes...unfortunately there are sick and cruel people all around us...for every situation.

43 posted on 10/16/2002 10:10:36 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: TN4Liberty
Unfortunately they tried to REASON with the farmers and got a big fat NO. So ...other measures were taken.
So you can blame the knowledgeable people who understand the issue(s) for this drastic measure.
44 posted on 10/16/2002 10:13:24 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: SunnyUsa
I felt bad but got over it....

HAhah..isn't this what Jeffrey Dahmer said? OR anyone who tries to justify their crimes?

45 posted on 10/16/2002 10:14:42 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: BeDaHed
I don't think that they meant the pig is impregnated the exact day the piglets are weaned. I assumed she got a month or two of freedom...

The cost of keeping a sow in a crate during gestation far out exceeds what it costs to keep one in the field.

How much are the piglets worth? You have to add them in too. If it costs farmers MORE to keep them in the crates....I firmly believe the pigs would be in the fields.

48 posted on 10/16/2002 11:46:33 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: BeDaHed
Now you failed to answer the question I asked you. Is it crueler to keep a sow in a crate for 4 to 6 weeks or to let the piglets get crushed under a 500lb sow?

I answered your incorrect question nicely. THEY are not in the crates 4 - 6 weeks....its 4 months! ANd that is an absolute.....versus the CHANCE that they may be crushed. I'd take the freedom and chance instead of insanity of a crate.

49 posted on 10/16/2002 11:49:37 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Boonie Rat
Yeah, I axed that one.
51 posted on 10/16/2002 12:31:56 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sungirl
"isn't this what Jeffrey Dahmer said? OR anyone who tries to justify their crimes?"

oh, sorry dear...

I confused you with someone who actually wanted an intelligent discussion. Your hysterics are amusing, and people have tried to engage you in a intelligent discussion, but you're unfortunately unarmed !

Equating working on a pig in an A&P required course for a nursing degree to the crimes of Jeffrey Dalhmer...wow, that's a stretch.
I could see if I said I really ENJOYED it!

You are a PETA nut aren't ya hon? LOL

52 posted on 10/16/2002 3:41:55 PM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: BeDaHed
Sungirl doesn't care how many farmers go out of business, if thats what it takes to keep the pigs out of the crates.
53 posted on 10/16/2002 4:03:20 PM PDT by philetus
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To: Sungirl
Check the third paragraph from the end of the article. It kinda jumped out from the rest of the orgs.
54 posted on 10/16/2002 4:57:06 PM PDT by cibco
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To: SunnyUsa
Ow....must of really hit your nerve.
55 posted on 10/17/2002 4:50:09 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: cibco
Yes...but your original post #26...you made it sound like Peta was the beginning and end of this thing. Peta just recently joined in....they never started this.
56 posted on 10/17/2002 4:56:16 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: philetus
Please....don't ASSume you know what I care and don't care about....
57 posted on 10/17/2002 4:57:42 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Freeper 007
They are blatantly preying on the weak minded because nobody else could possibly think a Constitutional Amendment is appropriate here.

That needed to be said again.

They even admit it is a ploy to see if it will work on REAL issues.

58 posted on 10/17/2002 5:01:12 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Sungirl
source please?
59 posted on 10/21/2002 10:57:23 AM PDT by smoking camels
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