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Pregnant pigs on Florida ballot
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 16, 2002 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 10/16/2002 4:44:37 AM PDT by Boonie Rat

Pregnant pigs on Florida ballot

Animal-rights groups launch national effort against hog industry

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Posted: October 16, 2002

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Diana Lynne

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The state that made election history in 2000 is at it again, as Florida voters prepare to decide next month whether pregnant pigs should have constitutional rights.

A proposed amendment to Florida's constitution seeks to limit the "cruel and inhumane confinement of pigs during pregnancy." The ballot initiative would specifically outlaw caging pigs in gestation crates on so-called "corporate factory farms." Gestation crates are metal enclosures that measure two feet across and prevent sows from turning around freely. The crates cause them to suffer from crippling foot and joint disorders, and to experience chronic stress, depression and other psychological disorders throughout their four-month pregnancy, according to advocates.

Pigs featured in gestation cages.

"We strongly believe that cruelty to animals is morally wrong – whether you're talking about pets or farm animals – and gestation crates are one of the cruelest practices found on factory farms," Rebecca Frye told WorldNetDaily. Frye is a campaign manager for Floridians for Humane Farms, a coalition of animal-protection groups, conservation organizations and concerned citizens that sponsored the initiative appearing on the Nov. 5 ballot as Amendment 10.

According to election records, the coalition's political action committee has so far raised more than $1.2 million dollars to mount its campaign. The lion's share of contributions has come from national organizations such as the New York-based Fund for Animals, which contributed $238,331; New York-based Farm Sanctuary, which donated $355,880 and the Humane Society of the United States, or HSUS, which doled out $255,335.

"Support for this initiative is one part of the HSUS's larger Halt Hog Factories campaign, in which we are working with other animal-protection organizations, environmentalists, small farmers and community groups to combat large-scale industrial hog operations and to promote more sustainable and humane farming practices," HSUS states on its website.

The measure is the first citizen's initiative in the country to try to "halt intensive confinement techniques in farming," said Wayne Pacelle, senior vice president for the Humane Society in Washington, D.C.

In addition to alleviating the suffering of pigs, the coalition also lists other goals for the initiative on its website:

The protection of our environment;

The viability of small, family farms; and

The health of Floridians across the state.

Activists readily admit their whole-hog efforts are aimed at a hypothetical problem; Florida does not have a large-scale hog-farming industry. Frye named exactly two farms in the state that currently use gestation crates.

"That's why we need to do this now, to prevent the mega hog factories from moving into Florida as they have in North Carolina. There, the environment has been severely damaged, property values have gone down, and the tourism industry has suffered," said Frye, who further defined "mega hog factories" as farms where "animals are treated as commodities instead of intelligent animals."

A call to Richland Farms in Pasco County – one of the farms targeted – was not immediately returned.

"This is the archetypal pig-in-a-poke," grunted Pat Cockrell, Florida Farm Bureau's director of agricultural policies. "It is a cynical – one might say greasy – attempt by national animal-rights groups that would lard up our state's constitution in order to advance a national agenda and perhaps to fatten those organizations' treasuries."

Cockrell said he talked with representatives of a group that supports the proposed amendment, suggesting it would be appropriate to address the confinement issue through public-policy channels.

"They responded that they were trying to get some quick public recognition of the issue," said Cockrell. "They’re obviously working to foster an emotional reaction among well-intentioned citizens by putting forth this constitutional amendment in Florida," he added.

"This is a perfect example of why we have a constitutional initiative," Former Florida Supreme Court Justice Stephen Grimes, who represents the coalition, argued at its review before the state Supreme Court last fall. Grimes stressed an initiative petition to amend the constitution was the only avenue left after an attempt to pass legislation protecting the pigs was defeated earlier this year.

"Special-interest groups have found a niche market: Just put out enough money to get signatures and get an initiative on the ballot," Matt DuPree, executive director for the Florida Christian Coalition, commented to WND.

In fact, election records show the political action committee paid some $177,278 to National Voters Outreach of Carson City, Nev., to help gather signatures needed to get the measure on the ballot.

Frye maintains the coalition's army of volunteers actually gathered the first 489,000 signatures needed to qualify, and then the group enlisted the Nevada organization to collect additional signatures as a "safety net" following Sept. 11.

The big-money initiative alarms restaurant operators, who smell an anti-pork campaign in the works.

The Center for Consumer Freedom warns on its website:

PETA is joining the scare campaign against U.S. hog farming, signing on to the effort to put an anti-"factory farming" initiative on the ballot in Florida. ... PETA's Bruce Friedrich tipped his hand in a recent e-mail announcement to supporters. If passed, the Florida initiative "will be the first" to ban this type of food production. "It would help us lobby in Congress" and "could lead to similar … campaigns in other states," he writes. PETA will run television ads, forcing "millions of people … to consider how their dietary choices contribute" to behavior PETA doesn't like.

Should voters approve the amendment, Florida will become the first state of the union to protect pregnant pigs in its constitution.

"If we put this on the constitution for humans, that would be another story," DuPree told WND. "It's ironic in itself. We sometimes award our animals better protections than ourselves."

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Diana Lynne is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.


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To: Sungirl
Lots of things aren't pleasant when it comes to the mass production of animals - for food or research.

When I was in college in Anatomy & Physiology we had to disect fetal pigs...I alway liked pigs (think they are funny interesting animals)...anyway I naively asked the teacher about the fetal pigs in the crate she was about to hand out... I wondered how many "liters" of pigs this was...not knowing how many they give birth to...
then I asked
" So, did they give the Pregnant Mother a C-section to get these fetal pigs for research?" My professors eyes got WIDE, and her expression was worried and she said NO - no C-section...(she might have thought I was a peta nut) LOL....

and then I realized they killed the mother and just slit her open for the fetal pigs...I felt bad but got over it....

It's just the way things are, and we had to learn hands on disecting the pig for our future degrees in health care etc...

41 posted on 10/16/2002 9:10:59 AM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: Sungirl
The practice of keeping a female pig in a constant state of pregnancy and confined in a tiny crate for her entire life should be illegal.

She should at least have a double-wide and maybe a satellite dish.

My problem with stunts like this is (1) this is NOT an issue that belongs in any constitution, not even Florida's, and (2) hardly anyone who votes on this matter ON EITHER SIDE understands what they are voting for or against. This belongs on the Florida legislature's agricultural committee where knowledgeable people who understand the issue can argue both sides over a period of time and decide if there are regulations that make sense. I imagine Flordia has anti-cruelty laws, and if someone thinks this is cruelty to animals, they should swear out a warrant. It does NOT belong on a ballot initiative or a constitutional amendment.

42 posted on 10/16/2002 9:35:37 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: SunnyUsa
It's just the way things are

Yes...unfortunately there are sick and cruel people all around us...for every situation.

43 posted on 10/16/2002 10:10:36 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: TN4Liberty
Unfortunately they tried to REASON with the farmers and got a big fat NO. So ...other measures were taken.
So you can blame the knowledgeable people who understand the issue(s) for this drastic measure.
44 posted on 10/16/2002 10:13:24 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: SunnyUsa
I felt bad but got over it....

HAhah..isn't this what Jeffrey Dahmer said? OR anyone who tries to justify their crimes?

45 posted on 10/16/2002 10:14:42 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: BeDaHed
I don't think that they meant the pig is impregnated the exact day the piglets are weaned. I assumed she got a month or two of freedom...

The cost of keeping a sow in a crate during gestation far out exceeds what it costs to keep one in the field.

How much are the piglets worth? You have to add them in too. If it costs farmers MORE to keep them in the crates....I firmly believe the pigs would be in the fields.

48 posted on 10/16/2002 11:46:33 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: BeDaHed
Now you failed to answer the question I asked you. Is it crueler to keep a sow in a crate for 4 to 6 weeks or to let the piglets get crushed under a 500lb sow?

I answered your incorrect question nicely. THEY are not in the crates 4 - 6 weeks....its 4 months! ANd that is an absolute.....versus the CHANCE that they may be crushed. I'd take the freedom and chance instead of insanity of a crate.

49 posted on 10/16/2002 11:49:37 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Boonie Rat
Yeah, I axed that one.
51 posted on 10/16/2002 12:31:56 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sungirl
"isn't this what Jeffrey Dahmer said? OR anyone who tries to justify their crimes?"

oh, sorry dear...

I confused you with someone who actually wanted an intelligent discussion. Your hysterics are amusing, and people have tried to engage you in a intelligent discussion, but you're unfortunately unarmed !

Equating working on a pig in an A&P required course for a nursing degree to the crimes of Jeffrey Dalhmer...wow, that's a stretch.
I could see if I said I really ENJOYED it!

You are a PETA nut aren't ya hon? LOL

52 posted on 10/16/2002 3:41:55 PM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: BeDaHed
Sungirl doesn't care how many farmers go out of business, if thats what it takes to keep the pigs out of the crates.
53 posted on 10/16/2002 4:03:20 PM PDT by philetus
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To: Sungirl
Check the third paragraph from the end of the article. It kinda jumped out from the rest of the orgs.
54 posted on 10/16/2002 4:57:06 PM PDT by cibco
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To: SunnyUsa
Ow....must of really hit your nerve.
55 posted on 10/17/2002 4:50:09 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: cibco
Yes...but your original post #26...you made it sound like Peta was the beginning and end of this thing. Peta just recently joined in....they never started this.
56 posted on 10/17/2002 4:56:16 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: philetus
Please....don't ASSume you know what I care and don't care about....
57 posted on 10/17/2002 4:57:42 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Freeper 007
They are blatantly preying on the weak minded because nobody else could possibly think a Constitutional Amendment is appropriate here.

That needed to be said again.

They even admit it is a ploy to see if it will work on REAL issues.

58 posted on 10/17/2002 5:01:12 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Sungirl
source please?
59 posted on 10/21/2002 10:57:23 AM PDT by smoking camels
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