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Will the world now start to see terrorism as a global problem? I fear not, but one can hope.
1 posted on 10/15/2002 9:46:17 AM PDT by TCSparkman
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how much more has to happen before Muslims have had enough atrocities committed in their name, and rise up in protest.

Right on target. Silence = tacit approval. It is way past time and only a handful have spoken up. If you know someone of this faith, tell them. Don't bother to ask, just tell them.

Silence = tacit approval

2 posted on 10/15/2002 9:51:04 AM PDT by RightWhale
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Correction - THe world sees terrorism as a global problem.

The USA does NOT. That's the problem.

And this forgets to mention the relevant fact that this will hurt mainly Hinud business owners on Bali.

Something the idiot Chris Matthews neglected to mention last night, either.

DoublePlusGood for the jihadis - Hindus screwed and Aussies dead.
4 posted on 10/15/2002 9:55:51 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!

Bump that!

5 posted on 10/15/2002 9:56:05 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!

LOL!

10 posted on 10/15/2002 10:04:00 AM PDT by ppaul
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"When do the good Muslims in the world step forward?"

Only when they are offered customized suicide bombing vests, free training and use of sniper rifles, or perhaps when they are offered their very own, c-4 laden mini vans... apparently.
13 posted on 10/15/2002 10:11:27 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!

Answers: Never, Never, and Never.

Why? Because peace-loving, honorable Muslims are rare birds. And if they speak up, they're dead birds.

17 posted on 10/15/2002 10:16:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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IMO, the Muslim mantra of "it is against Islam to kill innocent people" is meaningless.

Why?

Because to them, NON-Muslims are infidels and deserving of death. Technically, any NON-Muslim is not innocent and it would therefore be okay to kill that person.

Okay, most Muslims would not take this literally and most attempt to get along peacefully with their non-Muslim neighbors. But if it came down to supporting an "infidel" or defending a Muslim, they'd choose the Muslim, even an extremist Muslim. To do otherwise would be to side with the infidel, making themselves deserving of death.

One Muslim on a call-in radio show I was listening to yesterday said that clerics are afraid to speak out, even though he himself said the terrorists were "going against Islam" by killing innocent people and that "most Muslims do not agree with the radicals". Then he babbled about there being "radicals in every religion" and saying it is "not for him to judge what others do, just as he doesn't want others judging his religion". Sheesh. The radio host pointed out that many clerics WERE speaking out about the terrorists, but positively instead of condemningly. The caller could not explain why ordinary Muslims did not collectively condemn the behavior of the jihadists. They can SAY "religion of peace" all they want, but their actions speak louder than words. Or in other words, by their fruit you shall know them.

Matthew 7:15-21 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

18 posted on 10/15/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT by lsee
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FWIW, I was talking to a guy in the gym this A.M., whom I thought was an Aussie, and gave my condolences. He replied that he was actually from New Zealand. He said the only good thing to come from this was that maybe countries like Australia and New Zealand will become more active and stop letting the U.S do all the work (His words, not mine). When I told him that I thought those guys were always there for us he said that they were, but that Australia is really becoming more liberal and New Zealand doesn't have the resources to help us because they know the U.S will back them so they don't really bother gearing up.
20 posted on 10/15/2002 10:26:57 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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They so cleverly wrote petitions and took out newspaper ads and had their sixties-style anti-war protests that all focused around their brand-new NOT IN OUR NAME slogan.

It's not new. The same crowd was using the same slogan in the 80's to protest aid to the Contras.

21 posted on 10/15/2002 10:30:12 AM PDT by Hugin
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I guess they feel very protected on their island paradise with their incredibly strict immigration laws. Basically they keep out everyone that is not of white European ancestry.

Not any more. These laws were changed some time ago and presently aren't all that different from thos of the US.

Australia is a continent, not an island.

22 posted on 10/15/2002 10:39:22 AM PDT by Restorer
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The only real answer is to start carpet bombing at Jakarta and keep going west until you hit the Atlantic. Then go back and clean up. Islam has always been spread by violence. If we want to survive against it, we're going to have to beat it on the battle field.

25 posted on 10/15/2002 10:43:44 AM PDT by mushroom
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GREAT commentary, thanks.

Morals of this story:

  1. Appeasement never works.
  2. Silence = tacit approval.
  3. Socialist/Fascist/Marxists of a feather stick together. Lefty-anti war protestors are in bed with the Muslims because Muslim countries (with the exception of Turkey) are overwhelmingly SOCIALIST. Saddam is a Nazi. Yasser is a Nazi. Quaddafi is a Socialist. I have no idea how to categorize Iran's schizoid regime(s), but the Iranian people are not as free as we or they are led to believe.

26 posted on 10/15/2002 10:45:56 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!

When indeed?

28 posted on 10/15/2002 10:51:46 AM PDT by null and void
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"I want to know how much more has to happen before Muslims have had enough atrocities committed in their name . . ."

I, on the other hand, want to know how much more has to happen before mosques are burnt to the ground, mullahs are hanged from lampposts, and Moslem "refugee" ships are sunk.

Tenth century aggression should be met with tenth century reprisals. Twenty-first century armaments are optional.

30 posted on 10/15/2002 11:01:51 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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"When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence?"

My only problem with this question is it should read, "millions and millions"! I've read there is approximately a BILLION Muslims on this planet. How many have we heard from to denounce this carnage? 20? 40?

34 posted on 10/15/2002 11:42:01 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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I was tv surfing and came upon the Iran news show. As it began, the veiled woman news reporter began with. "In the name of God, the merciful and compassionate." Then she bagan reporting the news. She is obviously referring to the muslim god, and she has to be kidding.
39 posted on 10/15/2002 2:14:56 PM PDT by Gal.5:1
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BUMP
42 posted on 10/15/2002 3:51:50 PM PDT by RippleFire
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they keep out everyone that is not of white European ancestry.

Would that it were so. Unfortunately, they have the same multi-culti diversity problems we have here. They are importing illiterate, savage heathens by the planeload, because the Labourites realize this is the best way to maintain a pool of reliable government-dependent leftist voters.

-ccm

45 posted on 10/15/2002 4:17:59 PM PDT by ccmay
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The author's vision of Australia as lily-white is out of date. Also, he understates the government's and majority's support for the U.S., albeit limited to a token number of troops. At least they're Australian SAS, which rank with the best troops in the world.
46 posted on 10/15/2002 4:23:03 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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[ When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME! ]

Well Marc:
NEVER, that would be like walking down a getto in a major city(U.S.) with a KKK sign... thats why it don't happen. The aleged peaceful ones, are not that many, and not that peaceful either, just quiet'er.
Got that Marc, probably not your, I'll bet, wrong about many other things besides. This was the easy one.

49 posted on 10/15/2002 5:17:19 PM PDT by hosepipe
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