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Muslims Bali-Hoo Their Idea of Peace
www.chronwatch.com ^ | October 15, 2002 | Marc Rauch

Posted on 10/15/2002 9:46:17 AM PDT by TCSparkman

Muslims Bali-hoo Their Idea of Peace

By Marc J. Rauch Tuesday, October 15, 2002

At first, the news reports this past Saturday said that just a handful of people were victims of terrorist bombings in Bali, Indonesia. By Sunday night, the death toll was up to 188, with another 300 people injured.

The explosions took place in a night life area that is typically frequented by tourists and vacationers. Indonesia is a Muslim country, the most populous Muslim country. It’s not near Israel or the United States. It’s not run by Jews or Americans. There are no 'illegal' Jewish settlements, and I don’t believe that the Indonesians are in a dispute over water rights with any western country. I don’t even think that Ariel Sharon has ever been to Bali.

The bombings still happened, hundreds of human beings were ripped apart.

Reports indicate that a large percentage of the victims are Australian. Recently, Australians have voiced a lot of concern about going to war against terrorism and Saddam Hussein. Apparently they can’t quite understand why the world should be concerned. I guess they feel very protected on their island paradise with their incredibly strict immigration laws. Basically they keep out everyone that is not of white European ancestry.

I like Australia, not because of its exclusionary policies, but because of what it offers. I’ve never been to there, but I dream about going, perhaps even emigrating. They have great surfing, fabulous beaches, and beautiful women. I’m already taken, so I’d just go for the surfing and the beaches. I hope they have tequila in Australia. I really love margaritas, too.

I wonder how many street demonstrations there were in Australia today to protest America’s 'preoccupation' with defeating Islamic terrorism and Saddam Hussein. Probably not that many, although I could be wrong since a lot of Australians are out of work and have nothing else to do (other than surfing, sun-tanning, and making love to their beautiful women). They just collect government assistance. They call it being on the dole. Joining an anti-war protest is a good way to meet sheilas: they call their women sheilas. You’ve probably heard Paul Hogan use that term. They like to be on the dole, go surfing, and chat up sheilas.

But you know this commentary isn’t about Australia or fab beaches or enjoying life with a beautiful sheila. It’s about the taking of life: the wanton, premeditated, unjustified killing, mutilating, and destruction of life. And it took place far, far from the madding war-torn locations that we all normally think of.

I’m not surprised by what happened. I like to think that I’m not surprised by any heinous act that gets committed in the name of Allah. I’m just disappointed, again.

When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!

America’s peace-pukes were so happy to protest our government’s decision to take action against Hussein. They so cleverly wrote petitions and took out newspaper ads and had their sixties-style anti-war protests that all focused around their brand-new NOT IN OUR NAME slogan.

I want to know how much more has to happen before Muslims have had enough atrocities committed in their name, and rise up in protest. I want to know if they’ll ever rise up to protest the senseless slaughter of hundreds and thousands of innocent people. They’re real quick to protest an American or Israeli defensive act. It takes them no time to get out in streets to celebrate the bombing of a college campus, or to dance openly in support of the destruction of the World Trade Centers. Muslims are obviously a demonstrative people. When do they demonstrate against violence that their people commit?

It’s important for me to know this. I may want to take a side trip over to Indonesia one day and I’d hate to get Bali-hooed while there.

About the author:

Marc J. Rauch was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1952, and lived in the metropolitan area until 'emigrating' to the West Coast in the early 80s. He is a multi-award winning TV/film writer, producer, and director, and has been a broadcasting and marketing executive since the 1975. Marc lectures on various subjects concerning broadcasting, new media, and the Middle East at conferences and seminars throughout the U.S. and Europe. In 1994, he authored a book on advertising and has had several business and industry articles published in a variety of related magazines. His political commentaries are regularly published in several print and online publications.


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To: swarthyguy
I think you're conclusion based on your premises is false. The US recogizes that terrorism is global, just listen to President Bush's speeches. In the past, I would say that the US as well as most countries have treated terrorism like isolated cases and tended to address them through law enforcement efforts. That has changed.
41 posted on 10/15/2002 3:31:47 PM PDT by virgil
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To: TCSparkman
BUMP
42 posted on 10/15/2002 3:51:50 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: smpc
we were left to 'do all the work' in East Timor with no ones real support.

God's blessings upon all Aussies for protecting the East Timorese. X42 was too busy collecting Riady's Indonesian money to care.

44 posted on 10/15/2002 4:02:08 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: TCSparkman
they keep out everyone that is not of white European ancestry.

Would that it were so. Unfortunately, they have the same multi-culti diversity problems we have here. They are importing illiterate, savage heathens by the planeload, because the Labourites realize this is the best way to maintain a pool of reliable government-dependent leftist voters.

-ccm

45 posted on 10/15/2002 4:17:59 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: TCSparkman
The author's vision of Australia as lily-white is out of date. Also, he understates the government's and majority's support for the U.S., albeit limited to a token number of troops. At least they're Australian SAS, which rank with the best troops in the world.
46 posted on 10/15/2002 4:23:03 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: Rye
They all read the same book and the book says KILL the infidel.
47 posted on 10/15/2002 4:43:52 PM PDT by philetus
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To: virgil
We recognise and we say it but we don't act like we do.

India and Israel are urged to restrain themselves while we kiss Saudi arse and pretend the Pakistanis are our allies.

I'm going by what the US is doing in public.

There's a lot more going under cover, but this assumption that we have allies in the arab countries or pakistan is bunk.

In the past, countries from the phillipines to india to israel had urged the US to consider a global campaign but our response was to either ignore it or treat it as a criminal matter with no investigation of states - as in the clinton era.

Hasn't changed enough. We're still playing nice with the Saudis. And they are, IMO, our prime enemy.
48 posted on 10/15/2002 4:57:26 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: TCSparkman
[ When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME! ]

Well Marc:
NEVER, that would be like walking down a getto in a major city(U.S.) with a KKK sign... thats why it don't happen. The aleged peaceful ones, are not that many, and not that peaceful either, just quiet'er.
Got that Marc, probably not your, I'll bet, wrong about many other things besides. This was the easy one.

49 posted on 10/15/2002 5:17:19 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: swarthyguy
I see what you mean. Our loyalties are compromised by our dependance (oil) on our enemies. Its too bad we can't prospect for our own oil. That would cause a most perturbed reaction from the greenie weenies.
50 posted on 10/15/2002 6:51:21 PM PDT by virgil
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To: inflorida
. If only 10% really are violent then how come the other 90% remain silent?

Simple. You have your figures reversed. 90% are violent, and the rest live in fear. That is why they are silent.

51 posted on 10/15/2002 10:17:46 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
Simple. You have your figures reversed. 90% are violent, and the rest live in fear. That is why they are silent.

It is clear that Islam is a violent "religion" and for those who deny it, they must have their head buried in the sand.

52 posted on 10/16/2002 4:50:40 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: TCSparkman
NOT IN OUR NAME!

Not in our name shall innocence be slaughtered by Islamofascists.

NOT IN OUR NAME!

Not in our name shall hijackers, snipers, bombers, rapists, and torturers be pitied for "all they have suffered".

NOT IN OUR NAME!

Not in our name shall this war declared against us go unprosecuted.

NOT IN OUR NAME!

53 posted on 10/16/2002 5:08:42 AM PDT by MortMan
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To: swarthyguy
There's a lot more going under cover...

President Bush is walking a tightrope here.

On the one hand, he needs to hold our enemies close until we can open the Iraqi oil spigot which will drive the evil Saudis into poverty and perhaps bring them out into the open.

On the other hand, he can not openly brand Islam for what it is knowing that to do so would unleash the rightful wrath of the American population and lead to a bloodbath the likes of which the Islamanazis haven't seen since Richard the Lion Hearted waded in Saracen blood.

54 posted on 10/16/2002 5:39:03 AM PDT by metesky
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To: swarthyguy
TRue, the Pakis are stabbing us in the back -- see the killing of Christians and 'General' Mussy's shenanigans.

The best way to handle this AND to eliminate old stockpiles of nukes, hmmmm.... ;-)
55 posted on 10/16/2002 5:52:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: expatguy
Islam ain't a cult -- it's madness, mass madness. Read an English translation of their book of lies aka the Koran and you'll see it always contradicts itself.
Islam, the 'religion' who's 'prophet' first married a widow to get her gold then when he was an old geezer married a 9 year old -- paedophile, scumbag.

These words can't quite describe the 'prophet of peace'
Islam is NOT a religion, it's a disease and it must be eliminated
56 posted on 10/16/2002 5:56:46 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: metesky
"On the other hand, he can not openly brand Islam for what it is knowing that to do so would unleash the rightful wrath of the American population and lead to a bloodbath the likes of which the Islamanazis haven't seen since Richard the Lion Hearted waded in Saracen blood."

Why not? You did say "rightful wrath"; it's not as if we're making up imagined Islamic offenses.

King Richard had the right idea. There are some people who simply can not be reasoned with.

57 posted on 10/16/2002 7:08:14 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Cronos; All
"Islam ain't a cult -- it's madness, mass madness. Read an English translation of their book of lies aka the Koran and you'll see it always contradicts itself. Islam, the 'religion' who's 'prophet' first married a widow to get her gold then when he was an old geezer married a 9 year old -- paedophile, scumbag.

These words can't quite describe the 'prophet of peace' Islam is NOT a religion, it's a disease and it must be eliminated"

While I agree with you that the Quran is full of contradictions, this is really not what concerns me the most.

What causes me deep concern and what I find most troubling is that Islam calls for the overthrowing of secular governments and the killing of infidels. Islam calls for the destruction of democracy and the establishment of a theocracy.

Why is it that the United States allows a so-called "religion" that openly calls for anarchy, murder, destruction of democracy and capitalism. Islam seeks ultimately to destroy the West from within.

Many people worldwide think that the conflicts by the terrorist organizations are simply caused by religious extremists. It is not really religious extremism which motivates these people. It is entirely "political extremism" and should be viewed as such.

The ultimate goal of ALL of these organizations (Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc.) is for the establishment of an Islamic state and the Western world is the battlefield.

How would the West have ever defeated Communism or Nazism if Karl Marx or Adolph Hilter had actually gift wrapped their idealologies as a "religion" instead of a political idealology? America's "Freedom of Religion" would have prevented us from ever taking any action against another "religion", a political idealology though is an entirely different matter. Islam is not making the same mistake made by Communism in the past.

Communists tried to take over the world in the same way that Islam is. The only difference it seems is communism was no viewed as a religion.

Islam is nothing more than a theocratic form of government disguised as a religion. The Quran is basically the Constitution for Muslims. Each and every aspect of an individuals life is prescribed for by the Quran. There is no need for secular laws or a penal code in Islam, all is prescribed for. Muslims themselves will tell you that Islam is not merely a religion but rather a "way of life" and in effect, an idealology no different in that respect from Communism, Nazism or Fascism.

So called "Muslim and Middle East experts" will tell you that there are two types of Muslims. The moderates and the extremists, ie. "the good and the bad". This is not only wrong but it is misleading as well. People always ask, "Where is the outrage? The condemnation from the "moderate" muslims?" from the terrorist acts that happen so frequently. The reason you see no condemnation is because there is none.

Was there ever such a thing as different types of Communism or different types of Nazism? A good and bad?

My concerns are not really about whether Mohammed was a pedophile or a scumbag, my concerns are for the greater threat that the West seems to have overlooked.

58 posted on 10/16/2002 7:22:53 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: expatguy
"The only difference it seems is communism was no viewed as a religion."

There is another difference, which is what makes Islam more dangerous than either Nazism or Communism. Islam is a death cult, whereas the other two were "life" cults, especially Communism, which -- because of its secular materialism -- could not be other than a life cult. You can bargain and negotiate with Nazis and Communists and find some sort of modus vivendi which could, at least theoretically, lead to a softening "around the edges" of the totalitarianism.

Neither Nazis nor Communists, except in extremis were partial to suicide attacks. For Moslems, on the other hand, it does not appear to be a last desparate resort, but rather a tactical device of first instance. Consequently, while one could reason with a nuclear-bomb-wielding Commissar (who has no afterlife to anticipate), it is impossible to reason with a similarly armed Ayahtollah because the threat of mutual assured destruction holds no fear for him and, in a Jihadic sense, is his key to Paradise.

This is why the only effective tactical reply to militant Islam is extermination.

59 posted on 10/16/2002 7:40:40 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
It'll happen, just not yet...
60 posted on 10/16/2002 8:00:06 AM PDT by metesky
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