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Muslims Bali-Hoo Their Idea of Peace
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| October 15, 2002
| Marc Rauch
Posted on 10/15/2002 9:46:17 AM PDT by TCSparkman
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Will the world now start to see terrorism as a global problem? I fear not, but one can hope.
To: TCSparkman
how much more has to happen before Muslims have had enough atrocities committed in their name, and rise up in protest. Right on target. Silence = tacit approval. It is way past time and only a handful have spoken up. If you know someone of this faith, tell them. Don't bother to ask, just tell them.
Silence = tacit approval
To: RightWhale
That's what I've been saying to all of the "most muslims are peaceful" crowd. If only 10% really are violent then how come the other 90% remain silent?
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posted on
10/15/2002 9:52:16 AM PDT
by
inflorida
To: TCSparkman
Correction - THe world sees terrorism as a global problem.
The USA does NOT. That's the problem.
And this forgets to mention the relevant fact that this will hurt mainly Hinud business owners on Bali.
Something the idiot Chris Matthews neglected to mention last night, either.
DoublePlusGood for the jihadis - Hindus screwed and Aussies dead.
To: TCSparkman
When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME! Bump that!
To: inflorida
Because the 'moderates' agree with the goals of the jihadis.
To: texasbluebell
When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!A lot of innocent, decent people are dying for that to happen...(not holding MY breath!)
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posted on
10/15/2002 9:58:32 AM PDT
by
MarineDad
To: inflorida
They stay silent because they approve!
If this keeps up all civilized nations will be soon forced to outlaw this false religion and deport all the foreign national who are Islamics.
Islam is not a religion -- it is a 'cult of violence, gang rape, torture and murder.' I say go right ahead .... boot them all.
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
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posted on
10/15/2002 9:59:12 AM PDT
by
ex-Texan
To: swarthyguy
If the world sees terrorism as a global problem and the U.S. does not, why did it take the U.S. to initiate global action?
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posted on
10/15/2002 10:02:22 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: TCSparkman
When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME!
LOL!
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posted on
10/15/2002 10:04:00 AM PDT
by
ppaul
To: MEGoody
Because the USA was attacked. Uptothat point, it was considered a regional affair.
Even now, Terrorists in Kashmir are protected by the Pakistanis - our so -called allies.
People wonder why the US won't take on Saudi.
Why we protect Arafat and restrain the Israelis.
To: swarthyguy
That's close, but not perfectly on-center. "Moderate" Muslims know that the fanatics would be perfectly willing to kill them for any "disloyalty" to Islam.
One of the most telling criticisms of Islam is that it holds that the Qur'an is the literal word of God, dictated by Allah to Mohammed. Therefore it cannot be wrong, and must be interpreted literally. What does it say?
- Kill the infidel
- Enslave his women and children
- Make his women into involuntary concubines
- Death in Allah's service earns you a ticket to a horny adolescent's idea of Heaven.
It does not say these things once, but many times.
If you're a liberalized Muslim, with a live-and-let-live attitude toward those of other faiths, you have to keep it to yourself -- because to let on is Istihkfaf, or heresy, and is punishable by death. Those who would carry out the sentence believe that it is God's will, and that they'll be guaranteed places in Paradise for seeing to it.
Try Robert Spencer's book Islam Unveiled. It's a stunner.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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To: TCSparkman
"When do the good Muslims in the world step forward?"
Only when they are offered customized suicide bombing vests, free training and use of sniper rifles, or perhaps when they are offered their very own, c-4 laden mini vans... apparently.
To: RightWhale
it is past time to round them all up....
tick tock tick tock...
To: MEGoody
LEt's see.
Tehran 1979 - US does squat.
Beirut - 1984 - US leaves Lebanaon after 200+ marines dead.
Hihackings and kidnappings in the 80's. NO retaliation.
In the 90's WTC, Khobar, African Embassies, USS Cole,
NothinG!
Even now, we leave the Saudis and Pakistanis alone.
To: fporretto
Agreed. As i've said, the moderates and Secular muslim liberals like Tashbih Sayyed will only flourish after the jihadis and their supporters like the Pakis and the Saudis have been eliminated.
To: TCSparkman
When do the good Muslims in the world step forward? When do thousands and thousands of peace-loving Muslims take to the street to protest the violence? When do they shout out to their murderous brethren, NOT IN OUR NAME! Answers: Never, Never, and Never.
Why? Because peace-loving, honorable Muslims are rare birds. And if they speak up, they're dead birds.
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posted on
10/15/2002 10:16:58 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: TCSparkman
IMO, the Muslim mantra of "it is against Islam to kill innocent people" is meaningless.
Why?
Because to them, NON-Muslims are infidels and deserving of death. Technically, any NON-Muslim is not innocent and it would therefore be okay to kill that person.
Okay, most Muslims would not take this literally and most attempt to get along peacefully with their non-Muslim neighbors. But if it came down to supporting an "infidel" or defending a Muslim, they'd choose the Muslim, even an extremist Muslim. To do otherwise would be to side with the infidel, making themselves deserving of death.
One Muslim on a call-in radio show I was listening to yesterday said that clerics are afraid to speak out, even though he himself said the terrorists were "going against Islam" by killing innocent people and that "most Muslims do not agree with the radicals". Then he babbled about there being "radicals in every religion" and saying it is "not for him to judge what others do, just as he doesn't want others judging his religion". Sheesh. The radio host pointed out that many clerics WERE speaking out about the terrorists, but positively instead of condemningly. The caller could not explain why ordinary Muslims did not collectively condemn the behavior of the jihadists. They can SAY "religion of peace" all they want, but their actions speak louder than words. Or in other words, by their fruit you shall know them.
Matthew 7:15-21 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
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posted on
10/15/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT
by
lsee
To: Robert_Paulson2
past time to round them all up Not there yet. That will take time. It's been 13+ months, and the trend is in that direction, but it will take a certain critical density of terrorist acts per unit time or per geographic area to push this to the breaking point.
To: TCSparkman
FWIW, I was talking to a guy in the gym this A.M., whom I thought was an Aussie, and gave my condolences. He replied that he was actually from New Zealand. He said the only good thing to come from this was that maybe countries like Australia and New Zealand will become more active and stop letting the U.S do all the work (His words, not mine). When I told him that I thought those guys were always there for us he said that they were, but that Australia is really becoming more liberal and New Zealand doesn't have the resources to help us because they know the U.S will back them so they don't really bother gearing up.
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posted on
10/15/2002 10:26:57 AM PDT
by
MattinNJ
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