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AN ECO-NUT RESPONDS
The Logial View ^ | 10/15/02 | MARK A SITY

Posted on 10/15/2002 7:53:07 AM PDT by logic101.net

The following is a reply I got today from someone to a post I made her quite a while ago, and was sent to my personal e-mail. This individual mailed me from my web site, which is fine; except I thought that my response might be educational to other left wingers - which is why I'm posting it here.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacy Teruya" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: 'Eco-Whacko's'...

> Just read your 'logical view' on who benefits from the > 'eco-whacko's'....Boy, what a 'whacko' article...Next time you wanna' > blame someone for how dependent we are on oil go give a finger to > anybody...most of us are dependent on our cars to get us around and the > oil companies set it up that way a long time ago....I suppose you would > call me an 'eco-whacko'...but the 'eco-whacko's' you refer to aren't > even 'eco's'...Oh, well... > > L.R.

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Perhaps you are unaware of the free market system, or perhaps ignorant of recent history, or maybe you just believed the BS put out by the press, the eco-nuts & the schools.

The oil companies didn't force the internal combustion engine on us; consumers demanded it! The other options were to keep with the horse and buggy, or external combustion. Neither were convenient for individual travel. When Mr. Ford came up with the idea of an assembly line, it made the "horseless carriage" attainable to the average citizen. Oil companies were fledgling companies at this time, had no power, and were struggling to find a nitch. Most of the products that they COULD produce from it didn't have a market.

The internal combustion engine not only gave the fledgling oil companies a market, but also cleaned up the cities. Imagine the smell on a hot summer day in NYC in 1880 with all that horse poop on the streets. Imagine the disease potential with all the flies....

Your claim that the oil companies "...set it up that way a long time ago" just doesn't hold water. We are dependent on cars and trucks because we WANTED to be so, we DEMANDED them, so there were suppliers. If you decide you absolutely don't want a car you don't have to have one. If you live in a major metro area, I am sure there is a bus system, or a rail system, or both. If you don't want to deal with internal combustion even to that extent; you can go Amish!

Also, keep in mind that it is not normally the oil companies standing in the way of new and renewable energy sources. The wind farm mentioned in my post would have been FUNDED by the oil companies; it was the eco-nuts that opposed it! Can you explain that in your neat little leftist world? Free power from the sun (ok this is a physics lesson now I guess, the sun creates wind); yet the eco-nuts don't want it. They don't want fossil fuels. They don't want solar. They don't want geo-thermal. They don't want hydro-electric. Yet, they want electric cars and trains. Well, where do we have to go to get electric power to recharge these electric cars that consumers don't want? Gee; I guess that leaves only one option - fossil fuels!

I find it interesting that you disparage the "evil oil companies", yet offer no option to the use of oil. They are doing nothing more than supplying a product that consumers demand.

When we have a technology and infrastructure that will allow us to use a better source of energy I will get on board that band wagon. However, at this time they do not exist in any form that will be more useful than oil for transportation. I think Hydrogen has allot of potential (straight hydrogen; not the fuel cell foolishness); but it does have some drawbacks, mostly on the distribution end.

MARK A SITY http://www.logic101.net/


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: econuts; oilhaters
I hope it is ok to post this; I haven't seen any rules against doing so. I had this situation once before; a baned member was lurking, and found my web site here, then wrote something stupid directly to me. If I have commited an offence, please accept my appoligies and remove the thread.

MARK A SITY

1 posted on 10/15/2002 7:53:07 AM PDT by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
".... If I have commited an offence, please accept my appoligies and remove the thread...

What offense could you be guilty of?

I have a hard and fast policy regarding email, sent through ANY venue...

If you don't want your rant to me to be publicly displayed, to whoever I choose to display it to, when and where I want to display it, you'd better not send it to me.

And, BTW, your being clueless regarding my policy before sending me an email shields you from nothing.

Never apologize, especially in advance, for what you have an absolute and sovereign right to do.

2 posted on 10/15/2002 8:06:19 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: FrustratedCitizen
Ping!
3 posted on 10/15/2002 8:08:34 AM PDT by Hobsonphile
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To: logic101.net
James Lileks recently made a classic jab at the petrophobes:

Note to some of my interlocutors: “Oil” is not quite the epithet you believe it to be. “Oil-based economy” is not exactly a stinging indictment. This would be more impressive if you wrote your missives from computers made entirely of hemp, instead of petrochemical products; it would be more convincing if I had forgotten the sight, in 1991, of buses pulling up in DC to disgorge protesters who shouted NO BLOOD FOR OIL. The more you sneer ooooiiiiilll, the more I wonder if you were sodomized by a gas-pump nozzle in your formative years. I understand that in your circles, oiiiillll says it all, but this doesn’t have much resonance outside the student cafeteria or the Kinko’s where you run off your fliers. If you doubt me - and you’ve every reason to do so, given my oil-soaked family - say “oil you” to a stranger, or sneer “get oiled!” in a locker room, or announce in a theater that “XXX” is “a load of steaming oil.” People won’t quite get it.

You’ve work to do, is all I’m saying.


4 posted on 10/15/2002 8:47:37 AM PDT by Mr. Bungle
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