Letter from RPOF Chairman Al Cardenas -- Focus Email on Bush/Mcbride campaign

Republican Party of Florida Email ^ | 11 October 2002 | Chairman Al Cardenas

[PhiKapMom]

They are doing a great job at RPOF of getting out the information!

[ghostrider]

I don't have favorite in the Governors race. However, it is amazing to witness the hypocracy of those who do.

Don't necessarily consider the fact that someone in the military is the best qualified candidate. After spending over 20+ years around the AF, I would guarantee that serving in the military even in a combat zone does not qualify one to be Governor or any other office. In fact, some people I have known in the military are the least qualified. You minimize military experience, when it doesn't fit Jeb. Bill Clinton would probably agree with your logic

Somehow flying a plane even as a member of the National Guard takes a lot of skill and they could have been called into combat but the mission of that wing was to protect our borders. You enhance military experience when it applies to the President. Bill Clinton would probably reject your logic.

I think you have gotten disoriented with your attempt to tie a US Marine combat veteran to the draft dodging clinton, and you are marching backards. There are a lot more brave US Marines that will soon be going into combat. They deserve a better future than to be compared to bill clinton when they are no longer useful to your political agenda.

[Wait4Truth]

Bump for the RPOF! Jeb will win and McAuliffe will look like the idiot he is...that will make my day.

[MeekOneGOP]

[Clemenza]

Meanwhile, I raised your point about Reno to my Demo acquaintance, and he said she nevertheless did quite well in Southern Florida (where the Battista Cubans have the most influence, ironically enough).

That's because the majority of Cuban Americans in South Florida are REGISTERED REPUBLICANS and COULD NOT vote in the Democratic Primary in South Florida. The two largest Democratic voting blocks in South Florida are the Jews and the blacks and both voted heavily for Reno.

[Clemenza]

Nice to see somebody who thinks Jeb is not "conservative" enough. I'm sure you enjoy having socialists like Bob Graham, Bill Nelson and now McLawyer in your state.

[ghostrider]

And, you drew such a thoughtful and logical conclusion simply because I object to someone attempting to paint a combat Marine Veteran with the cowardly draft dodger clinton's color? If the man has weaknesses, then hit them. Lord knows there are plenty. But, one of his weaknesses is not that he is a cowardly draft dodger.

[windchime]

You're welcome!

Are you referring to Senator Inhofe's speech in which he went to the Senate floor and chastised Clinton for the China technology sale/transfer that jeopardized our security? What a first post! The story that followed that speech - when the propeller mysteriously came off his plane while he was flying it and he had to glide in to survive - was interesting. Your Senator Inhofe is NOT among the spineless!

Yes, the RPOF does an excellent job. Your added touches when posting just make it better!

[summer]

Hi ghostrider, I have not seen your posts in awhile. And, as I recall, you and I don't usually agree, but, here I think I will perhaps side with you by making this one point.

A person I know who is a very thoughtful voter and does not toe a party line recently said to me he feels all candidates for an office that has the power to send men in to war should have served in our nation's military and he wished this too was a requirement for the job of Commander in Chief.

I post this person's opinion not to slight GW or Gov. Bush, but merely to add the fact that IMO, many average voters want people with military experience in political office, if said office includes the power to send our nation's sons and daughters to war.

[summer]

Thanks for the ping on this. :)

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Also in the service: Tom Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Ramsey Clark, Oliver Stone, etc.,....

And as the only college graduate in his Marine company, McBride eventually saw the war through the prism of a socio-economically-skewed America. "Lower middle class to poor kids were being asked to die for their country, but had the least stake in what was going on," figured McBride. "An experience like that shows the awesome power of government. Making decisions that change people's lives."Link

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McBride was there, but he sure didn't have a clue who was fighting for our side and why.

Those "poor kids" had a great deal at stake, Mr. McBride. That's why the vast majority of them - most over 20, most middle class or above - volunteered to serve to protect and defend the freedom they know our country stands for. Most of them knew that Communism is a failed and deadly system...especially for the "little guy".

Will the Real Vietnam Vet Stand Up?, by B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley. Excerpts from Stolen Valor: How The Vietnam Generation Was Robbed Of its Heroes And its History

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About his stance on gun rights, please check out Joe Brower's thread titled The "F-Troop": Florida Gov. Candidate Bill McBride/Lt. Gov. Tom Rossin, put out by the Unified Sportsmen of Florida. McBride's running mate Tom Rossin is anti-gun rights. As for McBride, you can read the following comments and decide for yourself:

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

(for comments, see "F-Troop" link (^:)

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

It isn't McBride's noble Marine service that paints him as a Clinton soulmate, it's his own people and McBride's long time far left activism. There are military men and women who are fighting for a another version of America. Chris Matthews said that Hillary Clinton once said she pledged allegiance "to the America our country could be." That's the philosophy of today's Democratic leadership, including Bill McBride.

If you're a far left Democrat, McBride's your man. He's running as a moderate because that's the only way far left Democrats can get elected.

Cut through the talk to McBride's position on issues:

"But when it comes to core ideology, no one in the field outflanks him on the left. That, of course, could be a ruinous niche nationally, but not statewide."

"He's unabashedly supportive of public schools and teachers and activist on behalf of the environment and minority inclusion. He sees the value in unions and the good in affirmative action. He believes gays and lesbians should enjoy the same legal rights and benefits as married couples. He is, as he has said, a "proud and unapologetic Democrat.""

"To suggest that any private school is better than a public school is disgraceful…" Bill McBride.
Link

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If you're still not sure, his wife Alex Sink, is a longtime feminist and big $$$ donor to far left causes, a member of "Emily's List" who has donated campaign $$$ to terrorist apologist Cynthia McKinney among others.
Alex Sink's Political Contributions
McBride's Political Contributions.

[ghostrider]

McBride was there, but he sure didn't have a clue who was fighting for our side and why.

Hey! The man volunteered to fight a war for his country at time when most Americans evaded, when many dodged, an when some fled. He volunteered for the US Marines, who were widely known to get many of the toughest battle assignments. He was there when it counted for you and for me. He earned better than to have some "Ragtime Cowgirl" belittle his sacrifices.

If you were half as astute as "Summer" in the comments above, you would realize and acknowledge that. Acknowledgement of facts and truth in no way provides support to one's opponent. It provides support to the integrity, honesty and credibility to the person offering the acknowledgment. The reverse is also true, and it says much about the lack of integrity, honesty and credibility of the person attempting to distort the facts.

I don't like McBride's malignant liberal politics any more than other conservatives, but I am equally revulsed by those who belittle America's soldiers and veterans for the sacrifices that they have made - especially when the comments come from those who weren't there and/or didn't serve and fight. I think I read that that evil, vile, disgusting, serpent-head James Carville was a US Marine at one time. If so, then I would never belittle him for that. Somewhere, every polluted cloud must have a silver lining - even in his case. Carville's malignantly liberal and deciteful political record is so wide open for view, that he can be easily attacked on facts.

No one has to spin away the truth. So it is with McBride. After belittling his military service, you hit his record. Fair enough, it was easy enough to slam him for that. If you can't stoop so low as to acknowledge a combat veteran's record of courage and patriotism, you could just ignore it and strike at his public record. You can and did hit him pretty good at that.

[ghostrider]

A person I know who is a very thoughtful voter and does not toe a party line recently said to me he feels all candidates for an office that has the power to send men in to war should have served in our nation's military and he wished this too was a requirement for the job of Commander in Chief. I post this person's opinion not to slight GW....?

I am sure you had no intention of slighting the President - and you did not. President Bush was a fighter pilot. As such, he was one of the "cream-de-la-cream." He was one of the Air Force's best. Everyone should respect him for that. The very process of becoming a fighter pilot subjected him to the life threatening stresses and critical split second decisions that now prove valuable to him.

[summer]

You're right - I almost forgot about that. Thanks for correcting me. And, thanks for your reply, ghostrider. I think I have been reading too many Dem sites lately, as none of them ever mentioned what you just did.

[End The Hypocrisy]

ME: >>Meanwhile, I raised your point about Reno to my Demo acquaintance, and he said she nevertheless did quite well in Southern Florida (where the Battista Cubans have the most influence, ironically enough). <<


You: >>>That's because the majority of Cuban Americans in South Florida are REGISTERED REPUBLICANS and COULD NOT vote in the Democratic Primary in South Florida. The two largest Democratic voting blocks in South Florida are the Jews and the blacks and both voted heavily for Reno.<<<


Me again: Well, the Demos are hoping that Reno's campaigning for McBride in South Florida will get the Democrats to show up on Nov. 5th. Meanwhile, evidently she can't annoy the Cuban coalition into not voting for McBride because they will vote Republican anyway. OUR hope, however, is that she'll inspire the Cuban population to turn out in drove$ to support Jeb. But the Demos think they'll do so anyway, and meanwhile her endorsement of McBride will put him over the edge.

What are the latest poll results, generally speaking. Is McBride still down by 6%?

[ghostrider]

Ha! I don't think you encounter many fighter pilot mentalities on the Dem sites. However, I bet they can give you could some good ideas for snorting various substances.