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Pro-Gun Group Wants To Arm Parents and Teachers
CNSNews.Com ^ | October 10, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 10/10/2002 12:57:49 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29

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FWIW, THIS mom is armed at all times. Logically however, I know that in an instance such as the sniper attacks, who has managed to avoid being witnessed by anyone as of yet, my chances of defending my children or myself if up against a situation like that are low.

However, I exercise my right to carry a firearm on the chance of encountering a situation in which defense is needed, and when a window of opportunity to defend myself/children presents itself, I have something more substantial then a nail file or a set of keys.
1 posted on 10/10/2002 12:57:49 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
I have no problem arming parents and teachers although I don't think this guy will be caught that way. He will most likely shoot himself first. Don't forget he has a telescopic site on his gun and is not going to stand out in the open to make a target for someone to shoot. More than likely he will have shot the person before they can even get their gun out. But if this helps parents and teachers cope psychologically with this - I say go for it!!!
2 posted on 10/10/2002 1:01:51 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
I don't think this guy will be caught that way.

probably not, but Columbine would have been a different story if teachers were armed. It may have never been attempted.

3 posted on 10/10/2002 1:11:08 PM PDT by bankwalker
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To: bankwalker
You have a point but those kids walked right in and did it in front of everyone. This coward hides and no-one seems to see him Just like David Berkowitz and the Zodiac Killer did.
4 posted on 10/10/2002 1:15:42 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"... and out comes the gun because you're allowed to have it," Wolf hypothesized. "That's not very far outside the realm of possibility."

Not only do "their" arguments stink...their comparison is misstated. If something is just outside of the realm of possibility, does that make it somehow closer to being real?

South Carolina CCWP Bump

5 posted on 10/10/2002 1:16:45 PM PDT by StDonTheBaptist
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6 posted on 10/10/2002 1:16:54 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: areafiftyone
This coward hides and no-one seems to see him

He will eventually make a mistake and reveal himself. The more people that are armed, the better the chance of getting him.

7 posted on 10/10/2002 1:22:16 PM PDT by bankwalker
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To: bankwalker
I have no problem with that. Too bad I live in a socialist state like New York.
8 posted on 10/10/2002 1:23:07 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Too bad I live in a socialist state like New York.

I understand. I live behind enemy lines also.

9 posted on 10/10/2002 1:26:16 PM PDT by bankwalker
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"If they were on school property and they got into something like this, would they not pull out their gun?" she asked. "That happens with road rage all the time."

They get away with it again. I want this woman to point to the cases of road rage that resulted in a shooting by a person who wasn't disqualified from having a firearm (i.e. too young, a felon, etc.) and wasn't defending themselves.

10 posted on 10/10/2002 1:32:00 PM PDT by mushroom
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To: mushroom
You may have the example you requested from an apparent "road-rage" incident that occurred on I-270 in Rockville, MD a couple of hours ago....
11 posted on 10/10/2002 1:44:22 PM PDT by tracer
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To: tracer
I'll wait for the full story. My bet is there either wasn't a shooting or the person who did the shooting would be disqualified from having a weapon.
13 posted on 10/10/2002 2:44:16 PM PDT by mushroom
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Schoolteachers should not be armed -- nor most parents. I favor armed LE, armed security, and armed civilian patrols

I suppose{?} I can understand not arming teachers, especially if you mean while on the job, but I can't figure out the "nor most parents" part. I'm not clear if you mean while on school grounds or in general, or the rationale you use to make that generalizing statment.

Armed LEO/security/civ. patrols are a great thing, but if it came down to a do-or-die situation, I certainly would not depend on others to immediately avail themselves when seconds count and can determine the outcome.

I would however, be all for contacting the LEO so they may come and properly dispose of the dead body slumped over one of my windows.
14 posted on 10/10/2002 2:47:27 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
15 posted on 10/10/2002 2:55:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Schoolteachers should not be armed -- nor most parents. I favor armed LE, armed security, and armed civilian patrols (comprehensive training and certification required AND close coordination with LE).

Everyone should be armed.

But the problem with this sniper is that no one's *seen* him. Even an armed militia won't help in that case, unless someone either gets lucky, or figures out how to set a trap for the sonofabitch... the thought of which has been occupying my idle moments, predator that I am...

16 posted on 10/10/2002 4:19:22 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
This is *excellent propaganda, though - *exactly* what we should be doing (my previous questions about the usefulness thereof in the present circumsatances notwithstanding...). This is the type of media operation that our enemies run because it *works* - seize the moment and use the circumstances to your advantage in the propaganda war.

We can only dream that NRA would take a lesson from this group.

17 posted on 10/10/2002 4:23:52 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: areafiftyone
He will most likely shoot himself first. Don't forget he has a telescopic site on his gun...

I can't see any reason to support either of these assertions. What leads you to these conclusions?

18 posted on 10/10/2002 4:52:08 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Maryland State law (Article 27 Sec. 36A) expressly prohibits the possession of firearms on any school property, even if a gun owner possesses a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Most states have these "Sniper Protection" laws.

19 posted on 10/10/2002 4:53:52 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
How much training do you think it requires to handle a firearm proficiently and within the bounds of the law?
20 posted on 10/10/2002 4:54:54 PM PDT by Woahhs
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