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Posted on 09/30/2002 9:20:19 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: StarFan
The Judge said no such thing. NO ONE, EVER, can postpone a Senate election, because the day for holding them is specified in the Constitution. The New Jersey law that folks are repeatedly quoting, only legitimately applies when the Senator who dies has more than two years left on his/her term at that point. It is easy to read the NJ statute as allowing the Governor to act that way ANYTIME a Senator dies, resigns, whatever. But even a NJ Court recognizes that NJ law cannot be read to violate a specific provision of the US Constitution. Remember the Chief Judge of the Florida Supreme Court who warned his colleagues that the US Supreme Court would not let their decision stand?
From what I know of the NJ Court, they have less fire-breathing liberals than the Florida Court. Also, they will be MORE mindful of the embarrassment of being b*tch-slapped by the US SC if they attempt to violate the US Constitution.
The only real legal question here is whether the NJ SC will attempt to violate NJ law and allow the Dems to substitute a new candidate AFTER the deadline to do so has passed. The reasoning they applied, in their only known exception, involved a candidate who died before his primary, but won anyway. It does NOT apply to the Torricelli situation, since he is only politically dead.
Be sure to check the third link below. I wrote about this situation BEFORE it happened.
Congressman Billybob
Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."
Click for "to Restore Trust in America"
Click for "Death as a Political Strategy"
To: Senator Pardek
There is some arguement EXACTLY what the Constitution means on that point.
Technically, Beelz-a Bubba would be able to serve 2 years of a unexpired term since he is allotted a maximum of 10.
To: for-q-clinton; Torie
It's referring to what happens if the senators term is scheduled to continue. For example, if the Torch was NOT up for election this year. I think you are absolutely correct. So that means if Torch DID go ahead and resign, the gov. would appoint his replacement....but only until January. Also, if NJ law is followed the "replacement" does not get his name on the ballot. Right?
To: Mad Dawgg
Once again, the democrats ask "What would willie do?" and proceed down the sleeziest track they can.
To: ChadGore
NOTE: Bubba does NOT have residincy in NJ. He lives in chapaquitik New York state. According to Foxnews he has til Monday to move there.
To: alisasny
The Ledger (NJ newspaper) is already probably type setting an endorsement for a Democrap WRITE-IN. It will probably go down in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest Write-In vote in the history of the country.
You can rest assured that the media pimps of the election industry will made this the #1 story until the day after the General Election!
To: Political Junkie Too
This is the easiest way for him to grab political power, open up a branch Presidential office in New Jersey and be appointed Sin-ator for life in heavily Democratic New Jersey!
To: ChadGore
NOTE: Bubba does NOT have residincy in NJ. He lives in chapaquitik New York state. The reason this is being discussed here is because the residency rules in NJ are lax...only 30 days. As long as whomever is living in New Jersey by Monday he/she can meet the eligibility.
To: San Jacinto
Not sure if he would get his name on the ballot or not, but I do know that he won't serve past Jan. when the new congress is sworn in.
To: for-q-clinton
He might move in with his good buddy, Al Charleton!
To: Wphile
I HATE THE DEMOCRATS!!! Why? Just because they care more for their own power and pc nonsense than your security? Because they want to cancel the Bill of Rights in favor of their fascist policies? Because they want to confisgate all of your wealth and give you back what they think you should have to live on? Boy are you harsh! A mean, hateful Republican no doubt.
To: mwl1
it is not going to help Wellstone, Harkin, or others in jeopardy. That's an interesting thought. Makes it seem more likely that what's at work is preventing airing facts that might make the Clintons or McAwful look bad, rather than saving the Dem majority in the Senate.
To: anniegetyourgun
yeah dashole would love that,bubba giving the short man orders...lol
To: LaGrone
See post 1752. That is the correct interpretation. Torch's term is up this Jan., 2003--- no matter what--and so is his "replacement" if Torch resigns.
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To: clintonh8r
He already has residency at the Trenton Holiday Inn. Weekends, at least....
lol... there's a seedy motel on a section of Rte 130 in SJ named the 410 Motel... it's said the room fee is based on using it for ten minutes. There's probably a former presidential suite!
To: leprechaun9
The Ledger (NJ newspaper) is already probably type setting an endorsement for a Democrap WRITE-IN. It will probably go down in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest Write-In vote in the history of the country. As I posted on another thread. The highest office won by a write in candidate was Strom Thurman (back in the 1930s or 40s). So it's been quite a while for something like this. Maybe it's time for it to occur again, but then again the more people you have voting the more mistakes that can/will be made. Which makes it harder to pull this sort of stunt off.
To: San Jacinto
I think you are absolutely correct. So that means if Torch DID go ahead and resign, the gov. would appoint his replacement....but only until January. Also, if NJ law is followed the "replacement" does not get his name on the ballot. Right? The replacement person would go on the ballot as the incumbent. I don't know why this would be "more legal" but Napolitano made it sound like a done deal.
To: San Jacinto
Correct. The whole thing is a ridiculous red herring. But then I am a lawyer, so am used to this sort of byzantine labyrinth.
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09/30/2002 4:30:47 PM PDT
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Torie
To: texasbluebell
From
http://www.house.gov/burr/Speaker.htm
"Because the Constitution does not say that the Speaker must be a Member of the House, anyone could technically be elected Speaker; however, since the First Congress, the Speaker has traditionally been a Member of the House."
Clinton just need a Democrat majority in the House...
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