Posted on 09/30/2002 7:44:20 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
Sunday morning I woke and went to Micky Ds to get my husband a big breakfast and some other kind of breakfast food (I bought myself a large coffee).
As I waited in line behind 100,000,000 other people I looked to my left and saw three boys; Id say they couldnt have been older than 16 years old. Description of said white punks listed below:
Boy 1: Frizzed out hair, John Lennon glasses and a jacket that was infested with pins and patches. One of those patches read: Anti-Flag. (this set me off)
Boy 2: Blue hair, chubby and he had a top hat on.
Boy 3: Lets just say my cat craps bigger stool than this little twerp.
So as I was waiting in line I asked Boy 1; Whats up with that patch, Anti-Flag?
He said; Its a band.
I said Are you anti-American?
The punk said; Yes
I said Why?
To which he said: Vietnam, WWI and WWII did us no good. America kills the innocent.
At this point my blood is boiling and Im ready to punch this punk in the face and my food order is soon to be picked up.
I said; I dont give a shit what you think. When you get a job; and start paying taxes and contribute something to society your opinion doesnt mean shit. So take your 60s peace mentality and shove it up your ass. If you three represent the future of America, it scares me, it scares me very much. You want to want to be anti-American, go tell your b.s. to a United States veteran who fought for the very freedom you have. ( .I wanted to go on but I had to pick up my order and leave. I got a nod from some guy waiting in line in agreement with my confrontation with this kid.)
At that point I picked up my order, they left and I made my exit.
Is this the future of America? Anti-Flag?
By the way, my being critical of the libertarians is mainly due to their political strategy, I really don't see a justification, or value for them as a separate political entity. They would have far more impact on the world, which would be good..that's a compliment, if they stayed in the Republican party. Like Reagan said, they embody the heart of the Republican party.
No, situations like these do not require much thinking, either in advance or after the fact, to know how to address them. Simple good manners will suffice.
No, I would not have addressed these kids, because (a) I don't engage in political conversations with strangers in fast-food waiting lines and (b) I don't see them as doing anything other than minding their own business.
Or do you suppose you would be cowering in the back of the line afraid that you might get "a mouth full of broken teeth."
No, why would I be?
See, we've became a nation of wussies, afraid to speak up for what we believe in, and that is why this nation has become so p/c.
You seem to be projecting something here. Being polite and civil are not the same thing as being, as you so adroitly put it, a 'wussy'.
And p/c will be the death of this great nation, mark my words.
Either that or mouth-breathing neanderthals confronting otherwise peaceful citizens in restaurants.
The parents were't home at the time. I should have been more clear about that to start with. The sister apparently thought I was "cool". Wrong!
No one is saying that you don't have a right to free speech, or to ask questions. I am observing that you didn't exercise you right intelligently.
He didnt have to answer me, but he did and his anti-American rhetoric fueled the fire. Ive bit my tongue long enough regarding the likes of you and your ilk.
So, in other words, he made you act like a jerk. Gotchya. Thanks for clearing that up.
Where is your Anti-Flag patch. May I get one for you?
I'm finished being nicey nice to people who are anit-American. Why does it bother you so much that I said something to that kid.
You don't wear an Anti-Flag patch without expecting to be questioned about it. I just happedened to be the one to question him about it.
Later days and may I never run into you again on FR.
Please be sure to pay your dues before exiting!!!!!!!!!
Until today, I didn't even know who they were, and I still don't care, now that I do.
I'm finished being nicey nice to people who are anit-American. Why does it bother you so much that I said something to that kid.
I'm not anti-American, and it doesn't particularly bother me, but you asked the forum, so I answered.
You don't wear an Anti-Flag patch without expecting to be questioned about it. I just happedened to be the one to question him about it.
Whatever you say.
that in other circumstances she might have had to have eaten her McMeal with broken teeth.
Ok, buddy, time to stand up and be counted. You brought this up, so you can explain it. Do you, or do you not condone this? Do you think she gave provocation for violence? Do you think she would have gotten what she deserved?
I'm late in the thread again, but...
You took the words right out of my mouth -- only you improved on them. I was simply going to say, "With guns."
It always amazes me how willing much of our population is to send troops all over the world, at the same time as being so reluctant to actively defend themselves at home.
Who is banning who? Who's ever called for it, and who has actually been banned? What does this have to do with MG's challange of an ingnorant youth? If you are such of rock of independant thought, why didn't you just answere the question, politely.
I made the point that her attackers were following a Leftwing boilerplate response, you come on here with your Group Think BS. Support it!
Instead you get snippy, pissy, and selfrighteous. Take a midol!
This isn't rocket science. Confronting strangers, especially groups of them, with vociferous and high volume verbal attacks can lead to violence. It's that simple, and was clearly what I was referring to.
Do you think she gave provocation for violence?
In my case, no, but again, I was postulating about the wisdom of acting in the manner that she did.
B Do you think she would have gotten what she deserved?
No, of course not, but that's not what I was getting at. Others may not be so civil in their reactions to her behavior.
It sounds, to me, that it took a woman to have the wavos necessary to take a stand, out of all the men these twerps encounterd. Any wonder why Osama thought we would capitulate our foreign policy after the WTC?
No, you're inferring that, and incorrectly. Tell me, where in this entire scenario were her rights being 'trampled'? That's right; they weren't. I'm saying know how to choose the right battles.
It sounds, to me, that it took a woman to have the wavos necessary to take a stand, out of all the men these twerps encounterd. Any wonder why Osama thought we would capitulate our foreign policy after the WTC?
She didn't 'make a stand'. She spouted off.
What does OBL have to do with anything in this case?
She did take a stand, and as you stated, at risk to herself. I support that, although a 14 year old Goth is almost by definition a panty-waist and is only a threat to himself and small animals.
It is exactly the attitude of "choosing our battles", not standing up for ourselves, and the perception that we, as a people, don't have the stomach for a fight that led the the destruction of the WTC. Somalia most recently, but this has been escalating since we pulled out of Vietnam.
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