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ANTI-FLAG
ME

Posted on 09/30/2002 7:44:20 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70

Sunday morning I woke and went to Micky D’s to get my husband a big breakfast and some other kind of breakfast food (I bought myself a large coffee).

As I waited in line behind 100,000,000 other people I looked to my left and saw three boys; I’d say they couldn’t have been older than 16 years old. Description of said white punks listed below:

Boy 1: Frizzed out hair, John Lennon glasses and a jacket that was infested with pins and patches. One of those patches read: “Anti-Flag”. (this set me off)

Boy 2: Blue hair, chubby and he had a top hat on.

Boy 3: Let’s just say my cat craps bigger stool than this little twerp.

So as I was waiting in line I asked Boy 1; “What’s up with that patch, Anti-Flag?”

He said; “It’s a band.”

I said “Are you anti-American?”

The punk said; “Yes”

I said “Why?”

To which he said: “Vietnam, WWI and WWII did us no good. America kills the innocent.”

At this point my blood is boiling and I’m ready to punch this punk in the face and my food order is soon to be picked up.

I said; “I don’t give a shit what you think. When you get a job; and start paying taxes and contribute something to society your opinion doesn’t mean shit. So take your 60’s peace mentality and shove it up your ass. If you three represent the future of America, it scares me, it scares me very much. You want to want to be “anti-American”, go tell your b.s. to a United States veteran who fought for the very freedom you have.” (….I wanted to go on but I had to pick up my order and leave. I got a “nod” from some guy waiting in line in agreement with my confrontation with this kid.)

At that point I picked up my order, they left and I made my exit.

Is this the future of America? Anti-Flag?


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To: tpaine
By the way, who was trying to censor who? You mentioned that a while back and I didn't fallow what you were getting at.

By the way, my being critical of the libertarians is mainly due to their political strategy, I really don't see a justification, or value for them as a separate political entity. They would have far more impact on the world, which would be good..that's a compliment, if they stayed in the Republican party. Like Reagan said, they embody the heart of the Republican party.

261 posted on 09/30/2002 2:47:35 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: walkingdead
See, it's easy for you to sit back here on Monday, go over the situation in your mind, and then come up with the "best" way to handle it. If you're an American loving citizen, then I would hope you would have said something.

No, situations like these do not require much thinking, either in advance or after the fact, to know how to address them. Simple good manners will suffice.

No, I would not have addressed these kids, because (a) I don't engage in political conversations with strangers in fast-food waiting lines and (b) I don't see them as doing anything other than minding their own business.

Or do you suppose you would be cowering in the back of the line afraid that you might get "a mouth full of broken teeth."

No, why would I be?

See, we've became a nation of wussies, afraid to speak up for what we believe in, and that is why this nation has become so p/c.

You seem to be projecting something here. Being polite and civil are not the same thing as being, as you so adroitly put it, a 'wussy'.

And p/c will be the death of this great nation, mark my words.

Either that or mouth-breathing neanderthals confronting otherwise peaceful citizens in restaurants.

262 posted on 09/30/2002 2:50:58 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: ThomasJefferson
Then she was trolling for attention from her parents. Saying things openly which are contrary to your parents values is making a statement.

The parents were't home at the time. I should have been more clear about that to start with. The sister apparently thought I was "cool". Wrong!

263 posted on 09/30/2002 2:55:50 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: MotleyGirl70
Darn right I would confront it! That kid putting that on his jacket was his freedom of speech just as it is my right to question him about it.

No one is saying that you don't have a right to free speech, or to ask questions. I am observing that you didn't exercise you right intelligently.

He didn’t have to answer me, but he did and his anti-American rhetoric fueled the fire. I’ve bit my tongue long enough regarding the likes of you and your ilk.

So, in other words, he made you act like a jerk. Gotchya. Thanks for clearing that up.

264 posted on 09/30/2002 2:57:01 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Pahuanui
Neanderthals huh?

Where is your Anti-Flag patch. May I get one for you?

I'm finished being nicey nice to people who are anit-American. Why does it bother you so much that I said something to that kid.

You don't wear an Anti-Flag patch without expecting to be questioned about it. I just happedened to be the one to question him about it.

265 posted on 09/30/2002 2:57:59 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Pahuanui
MotleyGirl70 is signing off. Thanks for playing.

Later days and may I never run into you again on FR.

Please be sure to pay your dues before exiting!!!!!!!!!

266 posted on 09/30/2002 2:59:45 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Pahuanui
Have a good night Ted Turner!
267 posted on 09/30/2002 3:01:10 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
Neanderthals huh? Where is your Anti-Flag patch. May I get one for you?

Until today, I didn't even know who they were, and I still don't care, now that I do.

I'm finished being nicey nice to people who are anit-American. Why does it bother you so much that I said something to that kid.

I'm not anti-American, and it doesn't particularly bother me, but you asked the forum, so I answered.

You don't wear an Anti-Flag patch without expecting to be questioned about it. I just happedened to be the one to question him about it.

Whatever you say.

268 posted on 09/30/2002 3:06:49 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Pahuanui
Anti-Flag, she knew what it meant, the kid knew what it meant, she simply challanged it. You know this and I know this.

that in other circumstances she might have had to have eaten her McMeal with broken teeth.

Ok, buddy, time to stand up and be counted. You brought this up, so you can explain it. Do you, or do you not condone this? Do you think she gave provocation for violence? Do you think she would have gotten what she deserved?

269 posted on 09/30/2002 3:07:28 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
You have me confused with someone who cares about your political opinions. I could care less what you say in a somewhat civil manner. - My point is about the groupthink bashing & calls for banning now so prevalent at FR. It's become a mania.
270 posted on 09/30/2002 3:07:45 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: MotleyGirl70
Just want to say before you go, good job. I'm glad to see Americans standing up for what they believe in. It's about time, and if there was more political talk in the lines at McD's maybe more people would know what was going on in this country. (cause we all know we love our McD's, as far as I'm concerned, you couldn't have done it in a better place....) Have a nice day MG70.
271 posted on 09/30/2002 3:07:45 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: MotleyGirl70
They know better than this, they simply agree with the punk.
272 posted on 09/30/2002 3:10:09 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: OWK
You don't suppose that free men might have pulled their sidearms and blown a hole in the heads of anyone foolhardy enough to drag out a boxcutter on an aircraft, do you?

I'm late in the thread again, but...

You took the words right out of my mouth -- only you improved on them. I was simply going to say, "With guns."

It always amazes me how willing much of our population is to send troops all over the world, at the same time as being so reluctant to actively defend themselves at home.

273 posted on 09/30/2002 3:10:39 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: tpaine
My point is about the groupthink bashing & calls for banning now so prevalent at FR. It's become a mania.

Who is banning who? Who's ever called for it, and who has actually been banned? What does this have to do with MG's challange of an ingnorant youth? If you are such of rock of independant thought, why didn't you just answere the question, politely.

I made the point that her attackers were following a Leftwing boilerplate response, you come on here with your Group Think BS. Support it!

Instead you get snippy, pissy, and selfrighteous. Take a midol!

274 posted on 09/30/2002 3:22:38 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Ok, buddy, time to stand up and be counted. You brought this up, so you can explain it. Do you, or do you not condone this?

This isn't rocket science. Confronting strangers, especially groups of them, with vociferous and high volume verbal attacks can lead to violence. It's that simple, and was clearly what I was referring to.

Do you think she gave provocation for violence?

In my case, no, but again, I was postulating about the wisdom of acting in the manner that she did.

B Do you think she would have gotten what she deserved?

No, of course not, but that's not what I was getting at. Others may not be so civil in their reactions to her behavior.

275 posted on 09/30/2002 3:27:46 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Pahuanui
Are you saying that you will not stand up for your beliefs when others publicly trample them because of your fear of physical retribution?

It sounds, to me, that it took a woman to have the wavos necessary to take a stand, out of all the men these twerps encounterd. Any wonder why Osama thought we would capitulate our foreign policy after the WTC?

276 posted on 09/30/2002 3:42:54 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Are you saying that you will not stand up for your beliefs when others publicly trample them because of your fear of physical retribution?

No, you're inferring that, and incorrectly. Tell me, where in this entire scenario were her rights being 'trampled'? That's right; they weren't. I'm saying know how to choose the right battles.

It sounds, to me, that it took a woman to have the wavos necessary to take a stand, out of all the men these twerps encounterd. Any wonder why Osama thought we would capitulate our foreign policy after the WTC?

She didn't 'make a stand'. She spouted off.

What does OBL have to do with anything in this case?

277 posted on 09/30/2002 3:46:05 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Dead Dog
We've had 270 posts about 'the challange'.

You obviously don't get my point. - I doubt you ever will.
- I 'get' yours all too well.
Sweet [midol] dreams kid. Learn to live & let it be.
278 posted on 09/30/2002 3:56:08 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Pahuanui
No, her rights weren't trampled on. But you chose to drag her through the dirt, as if she trampled on the twerp's rights.

She did take a stand, and as you stated, at risk to herself. I support that, although a 14 year old Goth is almost by definition a panty-waist and is only a threat to himself and small animals.

It is exactly the attitude of "choosing our battles", not standing up for ourselves, and the perception that we, as a people, don't have the stomach for a fight that led the the destruction of the WTC. Somalia most recently, but this has been escalating since we pulled out of Vietnam.

279 posted on 09/30/2002 4:04:32 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: tpaine
You don't have an answere?
280 posted on 09/30/2002 4:05:28 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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